masakarijoe Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 "In preparation for our up and coming release of the TAR 21 AEG, we have secured an exclusive distribution agreement with ITL Optronics for the MARS sight. Although these sights are primarily geared for the Law enforcement / military community and not the average airsofter due to their cost, we are still offering them to those who wish to create the ultimate IDF impression, and will also offer a cheaper alternative aimed at the airsoft market once the TAR 21 is out." that... will be mine -Joe Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 That'll add about a ba-zillion cool points to just about anything. Would look awesome on an AR, methinks. -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 They have been seen on Marine Corps rifles Link to post Share on other sites
-Drake- Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 That in tan + VFC Scar = ultimate win. Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 that is the most EPIC optic ever , wonder how much its going to cost Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I'm going to guess $700.00 for the real version, $300.00 for the airsoft. Just a guess. -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 That's not a bad price, is the laser co-witnessed or separately zeroed? Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Price is 850 according to TSI. Which isn't a bad price. Though the MARS really isn't that good of a sight. If the TAR21 wasn't such an ugly gun I'd consider snagging one. Link to post Share on other sites
Faint Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Price is 850 according to TSI. Which isn't a bad price. Though the MARS really isn't that good of a sight. If the TAR21 wasn't such an ugly gun I'd consider snagging one. 850 for a replica sight is rediculace. Rather spend that 850 and get me a Trijicon ACOG or Eotech / Magnifery Combo. Link to post Share on other sites
0nslaught Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 850 for a replica sight is rediculace. Rather spend that 850 and get me a Trijicon ACOG or Eotech / Magnifery Combo. I think he meant 850 for the real one. lol Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Does it play "Pump Up The Volume" when you bag a kill? Link to post Share on other sites
lovecraft25 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Does it play "Pump Up The Volume" when you bag a kill? Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 850 for a replica sight is rediculace. To be fair, so is your spelling of ridiculous. Any info on the co-witness issue? Link to post Share on other sites
chillindrdude Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 the military MARS sight comes with a co-witnessed IR laser. i doubt that they would NOT restrict sales to civilians. the "commercial" version, if made, would likely have a visible laser. furthermore the MARS sight has a crappier battery life even more than the Eotech 551/511 series. thanks but i'll stick to my aimpoint m2, which has a battery life of over 1 yr and my micro T1 or M3/4, which has a battery life of over 3-5yrs. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 To be fair, so is your spelling of ridiculous. LOL! Any info on the co-witness issue? I'm not sure if it's co-aligned. I think the Insight ISM-V Integrated Sight Module is one of the few RDS/laser sights that are co-aligned. If the ITL MARS is co-aligned that'd be nice as it's priced similar to the Insight ISM-V. Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Not sure about the laser, but just for some more info it CANNOT co=witness with the iron sights Btw is TSI the one releasing the TAR 21 AEG or what? Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 At least the clone MARS will likely work better than the fake-o-techs. It's a reflex sight to begin with Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 That's good-it will be expensive though. Not to be a spoil-sport, but I prefer the EOTech 553 and 551/552 series. Link to post Share on other sites
andres3300 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 MARS http://itloptronics.com/images/productImages/mars.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 One word: Fap-tastic! Looks awesome on a Carbine. Too bad it's way too high to mount on a SIR, though. And I assume the optic behind it, is some sort of nightvision device? -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
andres3300 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 MARS is available in both IR and visible laser versions . So I guess the version they are offering is the visible laser one. http://itloptronics.com/images/productImages/mars.pdf Battery life is around 200h but it uses 1 AA battery. It is being used by the IDF the US Army and the Marines Link to post Share on other sites
andres3300 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 The optic is a night vision device called Mini N/SEAS http://www.itlasers.com/images/productImages/MININSEAS.pdf You can see below a picture on a M16A4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:INDIA5.jpg This sight is a little high to allow co-witnessing with iron sights. According to what I have read is a very robust sight and is replacing older M68's Link to post Share on other sites
TSI Armories Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Gentlemen, Just to clarify some of your questions: We have both models available - the visible laser and the IR one. Both models zero the red dot and the laser with a single set of adjustment screws. The MARS is too tall to co-witness with any BUIS when mounted on a flat top. It was specifically designed for the TAR 21 rifle and it's own BUIS system. The models we carry were developed by ITL to be used and mounted on the IDF M4s, and are military grade. There IS NO "civilian" model. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Well there you go. But since IR lasers are illegal for civilian use in many countries, I take the visible laser version could be dubbed the civy legal one. Link to post Share on other sites
scooberoo Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Is the AMRS used by the SEALs ? Link to post Share on other sites
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