T0p Sp!N Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Noticed this at Gunner Airsoft: http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2139 Full metal and a clone of HFC's $51.00 USD Link to post Share on other sites
Jim01 Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Morgan Freeman "WANTED" loadout...now wanting! Aha $51 usd, whats wrong with it Link to post Share on other sites
SteevoLS Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Aren't HFC guns chinese in the first place? That would make this a Chicloneclone. Link to post Share on other sites
Panzergraf Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Yeah, clones of Maruzen. Or was that Marushin? The original was plastic though. The HFC cost me $90 or so from Redwolf 5 years ago. The gun itself is great, and so simple that even Bell will be hard pressed to screw this up. So here's hoping Bell actually release some mags for this that don't leak and vent as badly as the HFC mags do Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Me thinking a GBB Han Solo loadout!!! Link to post Share on other sites
wildething Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Me thinking a GBB Han Solo loadout!!! sadly not gbb that only came as an 8mm Link to post Share on other sites
Treadhead Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 sadly not gbb that only came as an 8mm besides a blaster with blowback makes no sense! +1 on the non leaking mags - despite all my best efforts I can't keep gas in mine - makes the gun pretty much unskirmishable in a practical sense... Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Ah, if they do bring out non-leaky short mags, hello winter soviet comissar loadout!! UURRRAAAAH!! Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Its a german gun, chap Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Its a german gun, chap You need to do some research, chap . *edit, extra* Yes it was used by german officers quite a fair bit, but they where by no means the only one. Russian officer with one is a little far fetched, but not impossible. It certainly was not russian issue. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 the HFC was an original design. all of maruzens models were gas blow backs or cap guns IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Nope. Marushin (NOT Maruzen) first came out with NBB's in pistol and carbine form. I have even handled the carbines from Marushin AND HFC. What HFC did different from Marushin was to make the gun with metal. As for Soviets with Mausers? Sure happened. There was a HUGE shipment of 'Bolo' Mausers (Short for Bolshevik, one end of the Communist spectrum) with 3.9" short barrel in 7.63x25. It's smaller overall than usual C96 Mausers, and all these M712s replicate the full-auto capable model from mid-30's, predated by Spanish clones. One version I'd love to see would be the Chinese .45ACP clone. Link to post Share on other sites
adadqgg Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 One version I'd love to see would be the Chinese .45ACP clone. But that would mean that you will really need "clips" (AFAIK, no .45ACP Chinese version have detachable magazines). I do want non-leaking mags, preferrably short ones that are not so noticeable, for my Chinese loadout...of course. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 You need to do some research, chap . *edit, extra* Yes it was used by german officers quite a fair bit, but they where by no means the only one. Russian officer with one is a little far fetched, but not impossible. It certainly was not russian issue. Your point? Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 He's even wrong about it not being issue in Russia... It was. When you have tens of thousands of the pistols, you do issue them around. Have you checked Samurai M712 magazines, Adadqqq? I have couple, and they don't leak too much. And it sits flush with the bottom of the magwell, so it'll be easier to 'camouflage' as clip-fed. Of course, all these Marushin style magazines have the same basic problem, the hoop system is less secure on the BBs than feed lips. Link to post Share on other sites
Treadhead Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 all these Marushin style magazines have the same basic problem, the hoop system is less secure on the BBs than feed lips. that and the slightest distortion of the hoop at the top will lock the mag into the gun and jam the whole lot solid... Much tugging and swearing is required to get it out again... Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Winston Churchill Boer War loadout anyone? Shame it's only a copy of the NBB though, an affordable GBB replica in metal would be fun! Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Gotta agree with you there, espessially if you could pull the bolt back and top load the BBs (stripper clip lookling speedloader anyone?) Link to post Share on other sites
Mat Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I do wish they'd make an earlier version, the one that always crops up is the 1932 M712. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 True, I suspect that's simply because they're all based off Marushin's original cap firer and they look so much more exciting in full auto mode. In fact, I have a sneaking suspicion that Marushin actually took an earlier design of cap firer and reissued that, although I may be wrong and it might be their original design. Nothing much to stop you removing the selector and fitting a short mag though, which will give the look of an earlier semi-auto, if not a 100% accurate replication. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Only problem taking the selector off: It's molded into the lower body, and not a sperate piece, in just about all but the GBBs. And I'm not even sure if it's separate piece on the GBBs, since I haven't seen them in person yet. A 6mm GBB would be great for all sorts of loadouts - from Butch Cassidy/Sundance Kid to Winston Churchill to German officers in either World War to Star Wars blaster to post-apocalyptic Earth of the near-future... Link to post Share on other sites
T0p Sp!N Posted August 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Yeah, clones of Maruzen. Or was that Marushin? The original was plastic though. The HFC cost me $90 or so from Redwolf 5 years ago. The gun itself is great, and so simple that even Bell will be hard pressed to screw this up. So here's hoping Bell actually release some mags for this that don't leak and vent as badly as the HFC mags do Short mags at RSOV: http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=12499 Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Only problem taking the selector off: It's molded into the lower body, and not a sperate piece, in just about all but the GBBs. And I'm not even sure if it's separate piece on the GBBs, since I haven't seen them in person yet. I think you're wrong about that. It's certainly a separate piece on the NBB from Marushin being made of metal rather than ABS as the frame is. On the GBB it operates as a working selector. I'm pretty certain it's removable on the HFC too. On one of them (I can't recall if it's the HFC or Marushin), I actually had mine set to the R position for a while. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Wait, isn't selector used as the safety switch in HFC model? Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Hmm, I think I need to take a shot of my HFC M712 and mark what I meant by the body-molded selector. Like I said, I haven't seen the GBBs in person, so I can't say for sure how they did it on those. At least on mine, the safety is a similar lever next to hammer as in the real Broomhandle I got to handle a while ago. Link to post Share on other sites
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