blobface Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 i certainly hope you only have to hit the bolt catch. Yeah it's true, I hope it's either one or the other, but not both, either hit bolt catch to reactivate, or pull bolt to reactivate (since if there is a new mag / no mag, pulling the bolt also works to reset the bolt lock). I guess the closest thing to compare with is the UMP, while it has a charging handle, it's also got a bolt release button and a bolt lock. Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Since CZ doesn't have any plans on making a longer version as far as I know, so yes, it is bizarre. Well I did not say it felt like a sportsline, only that it looked like one. I would be hugely ###### off. Still surprised me they did not take any legal action. then again they are not cybergun. I actually discussed that off camera with another of the ASG guys (or someone else at the ASG booth anyway). I think the upgrades will be based around the bigger CZ assault rifle variants. It'll still be the smaller calibre but it'll look more like those models Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Pardon the off-topic, but Spetz, what the hell is going on in your signature? Lol need to change that. I got ripped off my some thieving French scumbag who tried to sell me a badly broken sight and abscond with the money. Link to post Share on other sites
Griff762 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Did they let slip about the next rifle again lol Link to post Share on other sites
jal3 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Dave did the selector switch block your trigger finger? When i tried it, it felt totally in the way...like it should have been 1cm shorter at least. I wonder if the RS Evo is the same. Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Real guns are only of safe when you are shooting, when your trigger finger comes of the trigger the gun goes on safe, not so in airsoft and ambi HK guns also have this "problem" selector getting in the way of your finger unless it's on safe, gun problem or training problem? Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Real guns are only of safe when you are shooting, when your trigger finger comes of the trigger the gun goes on safe, not so in airsoft and ambi HK guns also have this "problem" selector getting in the way of your finger unless it's on safe, gun problem or training problem? That's nonsense, soldiers and police and competitive shooters don't safe their weapon every single time they take their finger off the trigger, that's why they take their finger off the trigger Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 And how much real world training do you have? I don't have much but "this is my safety" don't fly in Denmark. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Well, I have a little (admittedly a very little) with the IDF. Mine agrees with Aod. The safety comes off when you need to fire your weapon, and it only goes back on again if you are taking your hands off the weapon (i.e., letting it ride on a sling or in a holster) or you will not need to fire it again. If in between those two points you are not actively shooting at something, but the weapon remains in your hands, your finger stays outside the trigger guard and the safety remains off. Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Yes we are talking about the intersection of training and weapon design, some guns are designed to to be put on safe when you come of the trigger, H&K ambi selectors, that is just they way they are designed, driven by the thinking that you are not always in control of what happens in the real world, you might fall down (or get shot or blown up), and in that case what is better, a gun on safe or a gun on fire? we are not talking about dicking around on the range. Anyway it's a training problem not a firearm problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 See target, weapon up, safety off, fire, safety on, weapon down. Scan for more targets. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I can't say I have any experience with guns that are designed to be put on safe when you come off the trigger. Coming off the trigger was always seen as sufficient by my instructors, the idea being that disengaging the safety took time you might not have when bringing the weapon to bear. Such are the joys of a conscript army; my 'training' stretched slightly further than 'dicking around on the range' (across the Negev with a select-fire M16A1). I'm not saying that the up-safety-shoot-safety-down mode isn't how things should be done, just that that's not the way I was taught to do it. I was taught to take the safety off in anticipation of firing, and to keep my finger outside the trigger guard until firing, then to remove my finger from the guard and only safety the weapon if I did not anticipate firing further without interruption. Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 All of which is completely irrelevant in airsoft. I used to be a SAS / SBS operator, my call sign was Captain Walt, I then went on to train SEAL units and advise tactical insertions for DELTA.......now, I run around with a 430rnd high Cap.....who knew. Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Trigger discipline and (even toy) gun safety are never irrevelant. And I trained Batman just as Obi-Wan trained me before. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm Spartacus. Shame WE didn't have the 416c on show, or the MP5 (with sliding stock). Or did I miss them in the videos? Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I know that safety problem is why so many LEO's opted for glocks safety trigger. That, or a safety/decocker. Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Forti Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Who cares.Anyway, I recall from some old video that the Evo can use bog standard mp5 magazines, anyone else remember this? Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I remember the same but cant find the video. It has been confirmed that it only accepts its own propietary mags. Wish I could use my ton of MP5 mags with it even if I loose the bolt lock feature... Link to post Share on other sites
Forti Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 propietary mags. My worst fear. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 If there is an uzi mag adaptor for m4s, maybe some benevolent genious can bring the same to the EVO3 Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 my call sign was Captain Walt That's Private Walt to you... Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Habakure, WE Eroupe just distribute WE stuff, they don't really have anything to do with WE in Taiwan. Link to post Share on other sites
jal3 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Real guns are only of safe when you are shooting, when your trigger finger comes of the trigger the gun goes on safe, not so in airsoft and ambi HK guns also have this "problem" selector getting in the way of your finger unless it's on safe, gun problem or training problem? It blocks your hand/finger when you want to fire. Imagine a 5cm long ambi selector on a AR15. Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 It blocks your hand/finger when you want to fire. Imagine a 5cm long ambi selector on a AR15. In that case dremel the biatch. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 So, Im really not seeing too much news that came from IWA. Were there really any big announcements or anything that Im missing? It just seems like there was very little in the way of.. well.. anything. Link to post Share on other sites
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