Skarclaw Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 The socom is at least 10 years old I would expect this to be far better externally Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Material wise? I don't see why TM won't use the same ABS as they always do. That coupled with a likely larger blow back system as with their new guns would mean disastrous results for green gas in hot weather. But it's TM. A better slide is almost guaranteed to be made for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted April 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 What does everyone reckon about this HK45 would fit a clone USP Serpa? I'm trying to search around and the frames look virtually the same (apart from the modernised grip of the HK45 but that doesn't matter for a serpa) Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Well ive ordered one. Gonna have to buy a safariland SLS holster now >_> Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 If only someone made a reliable MK23 GBB, i had both KSCs and both failed with metal-slide. What do you mean they 'failed'? RA Tech make a steel slide for the KSC/KWA Mk.23s. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 What do you mean they 'failed'? RA Tech make a steel slide for the KSC/KWA Mk.23s. I'm guessing he means cause the mk23 is a massive pistol the steel slide in Finnish weather just isn't great. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I suppose "failed" could be short for 'failed-to-run-properly-in-Finnish-cold'... I usually associate it with a mechanical failure, I guess. The aluminium Shooters Design slide can't be much heavier than the plastic one, surely? Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I had the first series KSC with a metal slide, in warm indoors or VERY hot day outside it managed to empty the mag and lock the slide. More powerfull gas like redgas did only bit better. Swapping hammer & recoil -springs did very little to change the outcome. Using hf-valves ran the gun dry of gas very fast. In a skirmish involving fast shots the gun never locked the slide, often running out of juice rather then BBs. Stock slide worked well, but eventually broke, thus my need to new slide. The newer KSC mk23 didnt fair much better, it came to me "pre-tuned" suffering from same faults as the gen1 so i got it cheap and took the risk. The gun was a "dare" to few of the best gunsmiths in the country. I offered them triple fee if they make it run good, none if they failed. The gun was sold to a Metal Gear Solid fan who knew airsoft and mostly used it in cosplay. He was fine loading only relistic amount of ammo per mag, i was not. If i saw with my own eyes one of those emptying a full magazine in +10-15 or below +20 outside i'd buy one in a heartbeat. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I had a stock KWA NS2 Mk23, and it was one of the only sidearms I was able to use in cold/winter weather in New York. temperatures were usually well below freezing. I never had a problem with it, at all. Granted the trademarks on the KWA one looked atrocious due to being lasered on, but it had a metal slide. Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 First one had metal loading nozzle, like the M11 at the time, did the NS2 have the new plastic one? My second one had that plastic nozzle but came "pre tuned" and i cant say for certain it was ever "fully stock" so maybe, just maybe i could give that thing one more go. Did some of them come with metal-slides as standard? Mine had one, i imagined it was aftermarket part. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 the ns2 or System 7 model has a plastic loading nozzle. I believe only the taiwanese labled ksc models and kwa models came with metal slides. I too had good luck with my kwa mk23 in cold weather. Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 It seems i may indeed have to give this gun a second chance. Is there any particular issues i should know about? While i dont care much for trades, that discusting safety-text doesnt feel very nice, is that lasered in too? Is there a model without that? Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 the safety speil is painted on instead of lasered. since they use aluminum black for coloring, acitone or nail polish remover should get it off. no particular issues aside KWAs standard of life time being kinda short compared to a marui. just make sure to use pure silicon oil. Link to post Share on other sites
Lancaster Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 anyone heard something about inner barrel length in TM HK45? Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 anyone heard something about inner barrel length in TM HK45? it'll be in the region of 4" Link to post Share on other sites
kimkafwan Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 What does everyone reckon about this HK45 would fit a clone USP Serpa? I'm trying to search around and the frames look virtually the same (apart from the modernised grip of the HK45 but that doesn't matter for a serpa) My ksc fit a blackhawk serpa but the mag catch is too wide -> mag falls off. Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 My ksc fit a blackhawk serpa but the mag catch is too wide -> mag falls off. good news. Dremel time. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 it'll be in the region of 4" The barrel or... ? Link to post Share on other sites
Forti Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 The barrel or... ? I don't get it, please elaborate Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 U serious, bro ? Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 subtle joke about *rickroll* size. Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 *fruitcage* YOU MARUI. Thank you for shopping at WGC Shop.Here is the update of your order details:Order Number: XXX---------------------------Email: XXXStatus: PackagingShip By:1. EMS ExpressActual Shipping Date: ---WGC Notes: Update by Peter (09APR2014)Thank you. The pre-order item======Marui HK45 Gas Blow Back Pistol# TM-PS-HK45 X1 andMarui 26 Rds Gas Magazine for HK45# TM-GMAG-HK45 X2======are not available now. It may be release in May. We keep update the status with you. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Well the release date did say later in April right? Plus the time it takes to get to WGCShop from Marui in Japan would make last week in April / first week in May very possible. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 it said 18th April Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Yes 18th of April in Japan, then add in about a week or two until WGC Shop get their shipment cleared and put into store at HK, then add in the time to put it through the system, process each order, double check and get it sent out a week or two can easily go by. Either that or they have it and are stalling for orders or time, entirely possible and companies have done it before? Still it isn't exactly like the new Super Smash Bros where some tit said April and then suddenly that was rebuked and it went back to being 'some time in 2014'. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
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