TheFull9 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 For some reason I've not seen any announcement from PTS, which is odd considering they've been teasing and building up the release on these for almost a year now. But WGC reckon they have stock so here they are it seems, the evolution of the PTS PMAG line. http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=special&item=PTS-AMAG-EPMBK&search=special&rs=New%20Release&catid=&cat=&view_choice=b Personally I'm a big fan of the comparatively very large capacity for a 30 round 5.56 mid-cap. The fake rounds look good, the loaded indicator is a nice feature, I could certainly use that bumper when firing prone and the overall geometry looks very permissive to quick, efficient reloads. My collection of P/E/TMAGs has so much life left in it I won't be buying a full set but I think I'll have to pick up at least one just to give it a go. Be interested to see how it works in some other STANAG compatible weapons. Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Looks interesting in a "legally different to a pmag" sort of way, I'm sure I've seen the orange follower idea somewhere else recently as well, in an airsoftology video I think, not sure about the magpod base though, I'm planning on making my TMAGs and Ranger plates last as long as possible! Jim. Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I was under the impression the rubber was for grip, I don't have any issues resting a gun by the mag on stuff...definitely says that though. Also IRL I think resting an M4 on it's mag is bad idea, they jam. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's meant to be for grip as well as aiding when used as a monopod. ARs won't jam when fired in such a fashion to my knowledge. Maybe if you used a cheap gun and , old mags; but otherwise that's an internet myth spread by the mis-informed far as I can tell. Shot plenty of rounds that way in the AR class I took in california as did the many other students in said class, no issues. I also shoot the L85 in the same manner whenever I fire it prone and the mag housing/catch is the same in the way it interacts with the magazine itself, no stoppages. Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Oh I swear I read somewhere (probs in an airsoft thread actually) about how some GBB M4 will jam if you push up on the mag, and a yank chimed in saying it was fine 'cos the real one does that too haha. Wouldn't surprise me at all, but doesn't seem like something it should do... Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Looks like an EMAG had a three-way with Bender and a Magpod. Also hope they improved their followers, every single PMAG M2 follower I had was absolute . Link to post Share on other sites
Manxmadman Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Hopefully these will make an appearance in recoil format too, the P-mags won't last forever (although they definitely do have a long life). Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Real mags should not jam if placed on the ground when shooting prone. That has been debunked repeatedly. If real AR mags do have issue with that, those mags should be retired as more problems with the mag will present themselves soon if not already. The base plate was designed with several key features. Most notably, is the rubberized overmold which is to give more traction when contacting a surface as well as in the palm of a grip when handling the mag. The monopod like design is to increase surface area when resting against a surface in a prone or barricaded-like shooting position to provide more stability. Unlike the magpod, which is designed to allow the shooter to shoot on a flat surface and nothing but a flat surface, the PTS monopod allows the shooter to engage targets at variable angles. The vertical tab at the front of the base pad was designed to allow extraction of the mag easier from tall pouches. Magpul's solution to this was the ranger plates which I always hated because 1: a finger would allows hook into the ranger plate loop and be a PITA to pull out of, and 2: the rubber of the ranger plate was too soft and you would consistently see POA/POI shifts on real guns. This hasn't been an issue with the PTS designed over mold base plate. Back to the vertical tab at the front, aside from assisting extraction of the mag from tall pouches, it also acts as an index point for holding the mag and inserting the mag into the gun. I've been running these base plates on my real PMAGs for almost a year now. They're pretty awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I reckon I'd get a set of these EPM's to replace my PMags. 150 rounds with the orange follower is good enough for me. I just wonder if they'll get round to making ERG EPM's? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 ERG, LM4 and PTW EPMs are all in the works. They need to get these AEG versions saturated into the market first. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I'll be getting some for my P*, ERG and LM4 then! Fantastic! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Ptw you say... You sir have made a sale Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Any chance they will do 7.62 version? I missed out on PMAG LR20s for my SR25, All long gone by the time I got one! But if PTS are getting into the magazine business... Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 USCM, any idea on baseplates being available separately? Assuming they mount in the same usual Pmag way, I wouldn't mind picking some up for my G&P Pmags. I figure there's going to be no chance of PTS doing the mags themselves for the WA system seeing as they're invested in the LM4 set up these days, but the baseplates would be nice. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 1: I believe the base plates will be available separately eventually. A lot of people have shown genuine interest. I am pushing for this. 2: I don't know if G&P have any interest in licensing these mags. They may do. Then again, now that Magpul has pulled all licensing I wouldn't be surprised if more aftermarket companies just started making PMAGs and other Magpul knock offs like EbayBanned has been doing a lot of lately. 3: 7.62 mags ... can't comment on anything at this time. I do know the 7.62 PMAGs weren't the hottest sellers when they were available. In large part because not many people adopted the larger 7.62 Airsoft platform. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I always thought it was weird PTS focused their GBBR efforts on KWA. Picking the smallest of the big three platforms isn't so bright. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 [OT]There's lots of reasons for the collaboration with Yih Kai. YK has some great engineers on staff as well as some of the most impressive production facilities in the industry. They focus on volume and were willing to work with PTS on meeting their standards. Things are never perfect but they've been more willing to find middle ground than many other potential OEMs. When it came to the LM4, they produced a system that worked right out of the box, something no other GBBR did at the time. They were also keen on producing something that would pass US Customs regulations, which no other GBBR on the market can say. Do WEs and WAs make their way into the US? Absolutely. But large orders are often given a lot closer scrutiny by US Customs than small unit orders. A few GBBRs getting seized is much less financial risk to an importer than a container full of guns. With the LM4 system there is zero importation risk for US distributors. There's a lot more to it than that, but these reasons alone made a very clear-cut case for why PTS went with Yih Kai. [/OT] Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Ptw you say... You sir have made a sale Odd that Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 [OT]There's lots of reasons for the collaboration with Yih Kai. YK has some great engineers on staff as well as some of the most impressive production facilities in the industry. They focus on volume and were willing to work with PTS on meeting their standards. Things are never perfect but they've been more willing to find middle ground than many other potential OEMs. When it came to the LM4, they produced a system that worked right out of the box, something no other GBBR did at the time. They were also keen on producing something that would pass US Customs regulations, which no other GBBR on the market can say. Do WEs and WAs make their way into the US? Absolutely. But large orders are often given a lot closer scrutiny by US Customs than small unit orders. A few GBBRs getting seized is much less financial risk to an importer than a container full of guns. With the LM4 system there is zero importation risk for US distributors. There's a lot more to it than that, but these reasons alone made a very clear-cut case for why PTS went with Yih Kai. [/OT] I get their reasons for going with the KWA platform. But if they made WA spec mags in addition to their KWA ones, they would make a lot more. No risk with customs as they're just mags. Bigger player base = more $. KWA GBBR is very much a niche, within a niche, within a niche. Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Sorry about OT but are Tmags still aviable somewhere? Or is there another option similar idea? Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Tmags are pretty much sold out everywhere, the nearest is probably the lancer mags. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Can you see how much left on the lancers? I was under the impression you cant Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 The old ones you could http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/169765-lancer-l5s-5pcs-box-set-by-king-arms/ I hadn't realised the new version by socom gear had dummy rounds in! I thought it was a rerelease. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 PTS Mag now available on EBAirsoft http://www.ebairsoft.com/enhanced-polymer-magazine-p-7841.html I've also been thinking about my TMAGs, I wonder if its worth drilling a tiny hole in the side of the follower and adding one of those tiny tritium tubes intended for fishing gear? I added them to my shotgun sights a few years back and they worked well. Just an idle thought. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I've also been thinking about my TMAGs, I wonder if its worth drilling a tiny hole in the side of the follower and adding one of those tiny tritium tubes intended for fishing gear? I added them to my shotgun sights a few years back and they worked well. Idle thoughts result in many projects. I have some of those tritium tubes and a set of incredibly small drill bits (0.3mm - 1.6mm) awaiting me at home. They're going into the sights of my MP7 and my XDM. Link to post Share on other sites
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