FireKnife Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Die Hard 5? Sorry. There are only 3 Die Hard films. I count 2. They made one and then there was a blip and this one called With A Vengeance, which was awesome came out. Bit like Rambo, I heard they made four but I have only seen two. (yes sadly DH5 does exist and I have seen it, so glad I didn't pay to see it). 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Man. And I was being good on not spending money...maybe that 2015 Mustang GT can wait. Lol. Meeeehhhh. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Now the HK45c(t) please. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I'll probably end up buying this once the fuss dies down, I was keen on the WE version until the usual qc faults showed up so I just got a KWC NBB CO2 M&P as a placeholder. You didn't try the VFC instead? "I was keen on the WE version until the usual QC faults showed up, so I just went home and slammed my penis in the front door until I passed out" would have been about as palatable as a NBB made by KWC... Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I paid £30 for the KWC. Most of the time I carried a TM MK23 its overkill a lot of the time and doesnt get used much but I like NBB's for woodland simple and quiet. The KWC has the same internals as the jericho I read about on arnies years ago, I really wanted one of those back then. It goes bang reliably in all weathers and can easily cope with man sized targets at 15m putting rounds into about an 8 inch group with 0.28s Thats all I want for a woodland skirmish, no spare mag carried as it gets little use. However if im playing pistol/shotgun games my glocks and 1911's come out. I read a few VFC reviews and to be honest I'm not that bothered, when the Marui comes out it will be worth the money, but VFC will not have the same after market support as the Marui going on previous releases. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 LOL @ PureSilvers edit Haha, yeah, that logic does not compute in my brain either Only time you would get a KWC model with derped blowback or NBB is if there is absolutely no other model available for that specific pistol. Even then it would be like "mweh, nawh." Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 You didn't try the VFC instead? "I was keen on the WE version until the usual QC faults showed up, so I just went home and slammed my penis in the front door until I passed out" would have been about as palatable as a NBB made by KWC... But seriously, why all the hate? They make some perfectly decent guns. Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Really? I prefer NBB'S for occasional use. Doesn't matter how wet or muddy or covered in they get they still go bang. For stylin' on the cqb pistol games yeah I like my GBB's but thats pretty rare these days. I just need something to cover my MED. The number of times in a woodland skirmish someone has tried to shoot me with a pistol and its vented (cold over here) or their mag has leaked or it just jams or the mag falls out (really happened) its hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I paid £30 for the KWC. It goes bang reliably in all weathers and can easily cope with man sized targets at 15m putting rounds into about an 8 inch group with 0.28s How's the hopup on it with .28s? My KWC SP2022 NBB didn't seem to apply much hop but seemed accurate at shorter ranges. Say what you like about the KWC Co2 NBBs but those things aren't bad given the price, the build quality is as good as a TM Mk23, trigger pull extremely light and have gas efficiency even a green peace airsofter would be happy with. If the hopup could be improved and a suppressor adapter made then they'd wipe the floor with a TM Mk23 in virtually every respect as a sneaky suppressed pistol imo. They'll never please those who love GBBs or want very realistic internals but for those of us who like NBBs or just want a cheap short range sidearm they aren't a bad option, they're dirt cheap to buy and cost next to nothing to run. KWC have definately missed a trick not having a threaded barrel of some sort on them though. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 If they're that cheap to buy and run then yeah I can see the appeal, if literally all one needs is something for very short ranges in skirmishes then it makes a lot of sense and you're saving yourself £100+. End of the day they're just not in an way a collector's type of gun given the operation method, which sort of makes me wonder why there aren't way more GBBR's out there in use as primaries, this template of AEG rifle + GBB pistol seems to be very firmly engrained. I think some folks maybe need to attempt to step in to some different shoes a little bit. If all I was interested in was the skirmish aspect of the hobby I'd have a very different collection to what I have now; there'd be a lot less pretty stuff that functions similar to the RS and far more NBBs, plain-looking-but-mega-tuned AEGs, polar-stars etc. Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Rob15 the hop struggles with 0.28g but I'm not carrying separate ammo weights on the field, my sidearms always share ammo with the longs, TM hop units can cope admirably and my GBB's will quite happily punt them out 30m+ The KWC was a snap buy, right place right time. Not my first cheap n nasty though http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/200862-palco-firepower-nbb-co2-usp/#entry I have thought about using one of the WE threaded barrel adapters on the M&P but its pretty quiet anyway. Enough off topic!!!!!!! I look forward to the TM release with baited breath! Jim Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Any more news on this? Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I noticed today during my usual rounds that Tokyo Model and Airsoft Global have pre-orders up. Can't be too far off. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Beautiful hopefully it won't be long until they hit our shores. With one import pistol on my horizon I don't want another right now! Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well TM usually seem to stagger the big four releases each year between the four quarters or so. That means we get this first by the look of it, probably the M870 after and then who knows. Either way by the time this looks to be UK side I will be fully sorted on stupid retailer system and can get one, yay! 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Inspector Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Looks like tokyo model has the 870 breacher up for pre order as well Link to post Share on other sites
blam360 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 WGC's FB says the M&P will be released on Aug 1 and the breacher on Aug 8 Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Huh, well if they have both out it will be Breacher first for me with the M&P being a tempting and tentative purchase based on my cars MOT costs. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
starburst Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I will be picking both of these up sometime in the future... need to clear a few things and get my knee back to the point where it can endure a days airsoft forst! Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Both available for pre order on echigoya Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Pricing ? Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 $169 on Tokyo Model Company Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Not too bad, now how about the breacher? 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 $272 on echigoya Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Orange Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 hmm, interesting, echigoya have a separate price of $312 for California and West coast US http://echigoya-guns.com/guns/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=568 Link to post Share on other sites
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