renegadecow Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Was shown this today from CRWs Facebook: "GBB news from JapanKSC Japan will release Vz61 GBB on 26th of September.With 1 x 20rd magazine 40rd can be purchased separately" No word about the PM though. Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Used to have the Maruzen. Regret selling it, so this might be an option. Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 If my Maruzen didn't break a sear and mags proceed to disintegrate over time yeah I would've kept mine. Link to post Share on other sites
jv83 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Finally! Have the Maruzen, but it is not enough. Have been waiting for this for so long. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yay, more news about a Makarov that still isn't released Seriously, the one Russian pistol that will fit many a loadout and no-one has actually put one up as 'for sale' just 'pending' or 'coming soon'. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 YUS FINALLY. I love my Maruzen but I'm hoping the KSC will be better engineered, mine always feels a bit ropey. If my Maruzen didn't break a sear and mags proceed to disintegrate over time yeah I would've kept mine. I feel like mine occasionally shoots a short burst if I'm rapidly shooting on semi, is that my sear wearing out? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Being better engineered is one way of looking at it. The other is being over engineered. The KSC sports a functional adjustable rate delayer which looks just about the same as the real steel mechanism. Problem is if the materials they'll use will take the abuse. Also, and more importantly, where's my goddamn Makarov?!? Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yeah I saw that a while back...hopefully it can be disabled if it proves to cause problems. But overall it should be way better; decent hop, better materials (metal receiver) and ideally a better design too. What's the 40 rd magazine going to be dya reckon? Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Damm, may have left it too long to sell my Maruzen I've not had any issues with mine though and all 5 mags have happily held gas since I got it in 2007. Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Offical site with google translator. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 "Banana shaped mug super" Bahahahahahahahaha. Translated pages make me laugh so much. And as usual where is my fething Makarov? PPK may be awesome but I want a bad guy gun now. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 I like both these things and it is cool that ksc will be doing a PM and WE a PMM. I will have to get one at some point. And if the ball keeps on rolling, a PB silenced in NBB form would be just dandy. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 A PB would certainly be cool. Interesting little pistol. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Would be great to see a PB but lets first get the PM out, it has been far, far too long for a pistol that is incredibly popular given the number of Russian loadouts and STALKER. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
NightFury Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Well this suddenly makes it harder to choose guns now. I was just between either a WE MP5, Vector, or a VFC UMP, but now there's this. No doubt this will be awesome though. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 That KSC skorpion looks plastic, look at the color difference between the receiver and the stock attatchment point. More then likely the Taiwan/kwa version will be metal with the KSC japan version being plastic. That makarov is definitely plastic as they had shown it already last year, and said it was plastic. So we might still have to wait for KWA to find they're own *albatross*. Maybe we should mail them two hands and a map. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 So wait if it is plastic does that mean I can't / shouldn't use the Makarov as a bottle opener? But, but, but that it the best feature, being bale to lock back the clide and crack open a beer while you shoot some cans in the 'yard' . 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 I couldn't care less if it were made of rotten banana peels. PM is PM. Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 I am pretty sure i am saw a video of PM. I will try to find it again and post here. Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 KSC Vz.61 "Scorpion" GBB KSC PM GBB Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkE5ao-PEB0#t=219 Link to post Share on other sites
coolurjets Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Finally, a decent airsoft klob. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Finally, a decent airsoft klob. The Maruzen one is decent, availability has always been the issue though, particually with the mags but I suspect that is an issue the KSC/KWA version will suffer as well given that a lot of their stuff is out of stock for long periods regually. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 How do people run VZ61s gear wise? They look fun but...impractical. Looks like you would need a Kydex drop leg mount kind of thing to utilize it as a secondary. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 How do people run VZ61s gear wise? They look fun but...impractical. Looks like you would need a Kydex drop leg mount kind of thing to utilize it as a secondary. I've always used mine as a primary since mags were readily available when I bought it, there are Vz61 holsters around though but imo it's a tad big to be lugging around as a secondary. Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Maruzen was plastic with a basically metal endo-skeleton, and as far as I could tell the Maruzen had the same hammers and trigger dimensions as the real steel, which was good for recreating parts. But yeah while the VZ61 is good as basically a Mauser Schnellfeuer with a folding stock, it was never as usable as most SMGs/PDW. Even as a squad leader weapon, I found that there just wasn't a sling mount to have it readily accessible, (holstered is not ready). Slinging from the base of the grip is very unintuitive. Its a better pistol than it is a SMG/PDW, but for quick reactive shooting like in IPSC/CQB skirmishes it just wasn't as good as a solid modern handgun, because of its blunt sights. Not much in terms of tac gear, though pistol mags pouches would fit it, just nothing in terms of quick release weapons retention or aiming attachments. TBH I am just happy its coming out. Link to post Share on other sites
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