blobface Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I'm usually one to jump on the bandwagon of "oh please not another ridiculously overpriced aluminium race gun Mr Lai" quite quickly, but this made my face hole water, it looks incredible, and the performance seems great, definitely worthy for a new home for Volante's steel BBU. However, They haven't revealed the price yet, but my guess is, more than double (probably triple?) of what RA-Tech asks for their Kimber full steel replica (which are around 1k)... Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I would think that would come in around $2500/$2700. Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 According to Popular Airsoft it's going to cost 1280$. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Oh god really! ? I hope that's true, if that's the case I wonder who the oem is. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Well that's a surprise I must say. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 EDIT: Nope my bad was a link for the Aluminium version! Ignore me! Link to post Share on other sites
ShinSeiki Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Oh god really! ? I hope that's true, if that's the case I wonder who the oem is. KWC, just like their previous nighthawk custom. Could be wrong, but the mag looks just like mine. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 KWC OEMing steel, close to TM spec 1911s? I'm not so sure about that. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 It's KJW / TM spec using KJW meu style co2 mag... I really doubt it's KWC. Link to post Share on other sites
jal3 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Maybe it's OEM'ed by someone already in the industry, but it's made to RW/CL's specs, that's for sure. They presented a working model at IWA 2014, that's almost a year ago, so they've spend quite some time on finetuning. I wish it had higher velocity, but i guess m100 is fine for market compatibility. And i wonder if they finetuned the CO2 valves for higher output pressure (or volume -> effective pressure). Link to post Share on other sites
ShinSeiki Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 It's KJW / TM spec using KJW meu style co2 mag... I really doubt it's KWC. Missed the part about it being TM spec, just to be sure i took another look at the mag and i noticed the CO2 pellet is straight, not slanted, pointing at KJW's version 2 CO2 mags (no ugly bumper). My bad, carry on! Link to post Share on other sites
Sallinen Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Think what they could do with a steel Glock Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Presumably the same as everybody else has done with steel GLOCKs for the last decade? I really wish RedWolf would throw caution to the winds and order 500, or 1,000 of these pistols from the OEM. Once they leverage real economies of scale the price of steel guns should collapse down to levels where you could think about skirmishing one without wincing every time you scrape along a wall or something. If these were $350ish - like a steel Stark Arms GLOCK is - I'd be all over them. I bet if RedWolf had contracted for 500-1,000 of these, rather than 10-50 like they probably have, the price would be a quarter of what it is now. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Yeah I'm not sure steel Glocks have much more room to improve from the Stark Arms CO2 steel version, which finish is far better than that of RA-Tech's or Guarder, and takes real steel sights with minimal modding. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Is this purely for collectors, or do people actually skirmish them? Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 If the price is really $1280, I would get one to game with extensively, I own the RA-Tech Kimber Royal 2 which just sits in the box / hangs on a wall because it's not exactly a "combat model", where as this gun would look fine (or better) when it's got scratches / dents from normal use. And I've given up on the idea that well maintained stupidly expensive guns somehow retain their values a while ago. Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Very nice indeed. I would be interested in a non railed version if they become available. Just don't like the aesthetics of that particular rail but the standard GRP is a slick looking 1911. It seems to shoot well from the above video, really snappy action even with the steel slide. If I was designing this model I would of used an aircraft grade aluminium for just the slide and use a stainless bbu for added weight at the rear of the slide and a stainless chamber and outer barrel to balance the weight of the gun. With a light slide and some weight from a steel bbu would IMO give an insane blow back action. Just an idea Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 To be honest your suggestions are sort of like taking away all the reasons that make this gun special for me. There are many non-railed full steel 1911, the Inokatsu 1911 and series 70, RA-Tech Kimber Royal II and Stainless II, mystery brand extremely expensive Kimber Raptor II, all of those are non-railed 1911s. This is the first 1911 that's close to what I've wanted for years, a "combat" full steel 1911 that could accept lights, and Airsoft surgeon already have a GRP with a steel frame and aluminium slide. A steel BBU doesn't really enhance the recoil of an aluminium slide much, I know because I've put on the steel BBU from Volante and tried it, it does enhance it, but just not anywhere near that of a steel slide. Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Cool. Good to know was thinking of trying one for a build. Link to post Share on other sites
Squad 701 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Cool. Good to know was thinking of trying one for a build. I presume he's comparing the Volante BBU on an aluminium frame against a steel-slide with CO2 ??? Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 I presume he's comparing the Volante BBU on an aluminium frame against a steel-slide with CO2 ??? Nah, Icolater was saying he thinks a aluminium slide + Volante BBU is going to have "insane blowback action", I'm saying no it doesn't, it's not anywhere near that of a steel slide with or without a steel BBU. (while both on CO2). I should think a steel slide, a steel BBU and an aluminium frame would achieve the heaviest felt recoil of all configurations, but personally I'd prefer the frame to be steel as well, aka as RWA's current config. Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 For collectors only? I skirmish my Inokatsu M1911A1 and sincerely hope these get some field-time. It's kinda like a fancy sports car, most gather dust in a garage but I drive mine. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 There you go http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=36583 Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 \%)(£*)IDO£$)(!I)!"$£*()(£* Yeah, okay, I'm getting it. Link to post Share on other sites
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