Jump to content

RWA Full Steel Nighthawk Custom 1911


blobface

Recommended Posts

Dang my gravings for a modern full steel 1911 have awakened yet again. This time looking even better and price still remotely reasonable.

 

Maybe I should start making my "collection" smaller, do I really need all them long guns when I dont have a proper pistol?

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 129
  • Created
  • Last Reply

As nice as some of these are, the price is simply farcical.

I mean RS Les Baer's start at around $1700, where the materials are far higher quality and the guns hand fitted and fettled. It's not like the Baer's are churned out in their thousands to keep the price down either.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Many ARs cost less than PTWs... almost all 870s cost less than the APS or Marui version... most Mosin Nagant cost 1/3 or 1/4 of the airsoft version by Zeta Lab.... the price of this replica really isn't that bad, especially for Redwolf standards.. Baer's been in business for more than 20 35 years with full time staff, and they do make them in the thousands, apples and oranges really. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Many ARs cost less than PTWs... almost all 870s cost less than the APS or Marui version... most Mosin Nagant cost 1/3 or 1/4 of the airsoft version by Zeta Lab.... the price of this replica really isn't that bad, especially for Redwolf standards.. Baer's been in business for more than 20 35 years with full time staff, and they do make them in the thousands, apples and oranges really. 

 

I see what you're saying, but it just doesn't wash with me really.

Yes, Baer makes thousands, but over what time period?

The materials will be of a much higher standard for a start to cope with the pressures and stress created. For example, the steels would be of a specific composition and hardness / temper.

 

If you look at this vid, you'll see what goes into making the Baers, and we're meant to pay circa the same for an airsoft? - I don't think so.

 

Not dissing the Nighthawk shown, I dare say it's very good and fair play to any of you guys who buy one. However, I'm certainly dissing the ludicrous price for what it is...

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think SRP has gone up a tad since that was filmed.

 

Here's how it works guys. You all get super pumped about this and buy up all the pre-orders, tick off the notify when restocked and so on.

 

Then the first run sells out and RW commits to building a tonne more.

 

Then no one buys anthing. They sit in stock till the price gets chopped in half and the rest of us can spring like a legion of trap door spiders.

Link to post
Share on other sites

If you look at this vid, you'll see what goes into making the Baers, and we're meant to pay circa the same for an airsoft? - I don't think so.

Actually I'd say that video shows very little about what goes into making them, unless I missed something I didn't see a single part actually being manufactured, only fitted and finished, materials and fitting are only half the story, without knowing how both are actually making the parts and the volumes I don't think it's at all possible to really compare the retail prices properly.

Link to post
Share on other sites

What you can see in the video are a lot of people. People like that aren't cheap. And if one of those guys gets a bit too happy with a file or grinder that's a frame, slide and the other fitted parts into the scrap pile.

 

Hand made in the USA is about the worst thing you can do if the plan is to churn out product and rake in profits.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Actually I'd say that video shows very little about what goes into making them, unless I missed something I didn't see a single part actually being manufactured, only fitted and finished, materials and fitting are only half the story, without knowing how both are actually making the parts and the volumes I don't think it's at all possible to really compare the retail prices properly.

 

Even if both RWA and Baer outsource the manufacture of the components to specialist machining companies, the components for the RS are always going to be higher quality.

I doubt RWA have 20+ highly skilled and highly paid gunsmiths sitting there precision fitting and finishing the parts either. Not forgetting the RS in that video go through a time consuming bluing process as well, rather than just getting a cheapo coat of thin paint! Then there's the hand checkering and so on......

 

Sorry, will never be convinced the price is justified.

However, in saying this, we don't know how much the retailers like Redwolf are paying for these. For all we know the issue may just be them using a huge ott mark-up?

Link to post
Share on other sites

They would obviously sell a load more if they ordered 10 times as many to be able to drop the price but part of me thinks they want to keep the batches small to keep the prices high to give the illusion of exclusivity.

Link to post
Share on other sites

They would obviously sell a load more if they ordered 10 times as many to be able to drop the price but part of me thinks they want to keep the batches small to keep the prices high to give the illusion of exclusivity.

That wouldn't surprise me at all.

If these were in the region of $500 or less, they would sell by the bucket load I would imagine.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and the use of session cookies.