chas Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 No much info as of yet, but it seems to be about to launch. According to someone somehow connected to PPS, it's a Tanaka clone with some "critical" parts changed from zink alloy to Steel. Im just gonna drop a few links: http://www.pps-airsoft.com/ http://www.popularairsoft.com/news/warpaper-pps-m870-police-magnum-review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3sYHr5J-Yc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sro2E_PgcTM KHMountain also offers shells that can use up to Top gas. They only hold 3 BBs each, though. The brands website shows some CO2 shells in the making. http://www.khmountain.com/airsoft/product_info.php?products_id=4953 The guy from CRW thinks this will be compatible with RS parts. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 If it's a Tanaka clone then those Madbull shells are perfect. Pricey, but perfect. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 If its a Tanaka clone it will be compatible with RS parts. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted December 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 If only they told us about the price already! Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 If only they told us about the price already! At least $300. The last clone with wood stock and grip was almost $500. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 That video above tells you how much it is... $1800 hkd, which is $230 Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILHUNTER Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Very nice new, the shells are pretty cheap indeed. They will release aftermarket parts for it, hope to see a cheap surefire handguard. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted December 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 The range seems ridiculous, though. Or is it just me? I expected it to shoot a Little further and with less spread, given that it has an inner barrel, as compared to the APS. Apart from breaking rigt out of the box (apparently the pins come out and your barrel and shell tube fall off!), how skirmishable are the Tanaka 870's? Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Pretty much everything breaks on the Tanaka, the pins fall off as you mentioned, so you really have to thread and screw it on with some grub screws, then the charging forend arms break because it's made out of cheese metal, then the flats on the slide block breaks because it's made out of butter metal. So... err, it's super awesome once it's all fixed, but as for how "skirmishable", quite, actually, with only 1 BB in I can hit very small targets from 10m to a point where using heavier single BB shell, you could do awesome Magpul shell change for different ranges... provided you have enough shells and a way not to loose them all. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 And people complain about the TM's 870 reliability... Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Few years too late! I can't see what advantages this has over aps or tm. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Regardless its nice to see some shotgun diversity. On my phone my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Few years too late! I can't see what advantages this has over aps or tm. That it only costs $230? Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 That it only costs $230? true. But TM is 'only' 300 and far more practical and then you get onto the cost of shells. Aps is a premium product and cost reflects that - as far as I can tell it is 'the' shell ejector. 12 rounds is also so, so cool. Its a shotgun after all! Tldr - on a budget? Get TM. Want shell ejector? Get APS. Choice is good but as I said this is several years late. Best of luck to them. Personally I hope the aps shell becomes the new standard and we see more models based around them. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 You can't really put it on the same page with TM because of the shells. At best you can compare the Marushin M500 against the TM offering. For this it's only APS or older Maruzens. The problem with APS is that despite how solid their design is, it's priced pretty high and made only worse by the cost of shells. Unless they're able to lower shell cost or a clone comes out that platform isn't really going anywhere. The stock Tanaka/PPS shells only hold 3, but you can use Madbull shells that hold 6 and the option to use CO2 whereas APS is CO2 only. Then there are these shells. Cheap, takes green gas or CO2 and hold up to 12 bbs or whatever you can cram in the paintball version provided you remove the inner barrel assembly first. Also, there's that, an inner barrel which should provide better range and tighter groups. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted December 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 PPS already have 6 BBs CO2 shells. See videos or homepage. The APS, from what I read in it's review thread has quite a few problems.If the PPS works flawlessly, Ill get one for garden plinking: shell ejecting and RS accessories. The TM I'd get for playing. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Those look really cool, for 12bbs that's a lot less faffing as the APS shells, provided it's the same length and actually works, they seem to be discontinued everywhere though, what are they? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 They're Goblin shells. Made in China but distributed only in the US from lack of any real use for them since nobody really uses Tanakas. Tanaka compatible but otherwise used on their shotgun pistols (Elfin Knight Ganatan clone). I imagine once the PPS is out we'd start seeing this being more wide spread or PPS start making copies of it themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 I need to get a Denix sawed-off shotgun and adapt it to fire the Goblin shells. I think that Gunfire have them in stock, or at least had. Link to post Share on other sites
coolurjets Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Also remember, when you are in game and super pumped up on adrenaline and the rage induced by precived non-hit takers, you are going to be less than delicate racking and firing your man toy. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 It seems like PPS will be releasing 12 *fruitcage* variants of this gun! http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/214325-hk-toy-fair-2015/?p=2707949 Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Yeah, now it's hard to decide between the sawn-off version and the wood stock one with extended magazine tube. Link to post Share on other sites
rOnii Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 When does this thing will be available !?? Someone knows !? Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 The base model can be bought from Gunnerairsoft. Email him at info@gunnerairsoft.com 1600 HK$ (206 US$) If this has decent performance, that is an excellent price!! Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Dude. That's a Tanaka clone apparently. As long as it hits the release valve with proper force, it's gonna perform. The only question is whether it has an inner barrel or not, and how easy it is to remove any inner barrel that is there. There's enough clone Tanaka shells out for everyone. Madbull, Goblin, APS, now PPS too. Link to post Share on other sites
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