kagami Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 pulled off ASGI's facebook. Conflicting info with the magazines so I'm assuming there's a AEG variant as well. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 PTS have released their whole 2015 catalogue.. there is a GBB listed but no info on an AEG as it is not included. One would assume they won't be making one. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Won't Magpul go in a hissy fit? And will they only be making that version or the old thumbhole PDR too? Wait, says gas blowback but uses TM recoil shock mags?!? Link to post Share on other sites
M_P Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Won't Magpul go in a hissy fit? And will they only be making that version or the old thumbhole PDR too? Wait, says gas blowback but uses TM recoil shock mags?!? Where does it say tm recoil mags? The picture just says tm style which more than likely just means standard tm compatible ones. Especially as it says EPM compatible as they're their replacement for the old aeg Pmags. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Yeah I would imagine just standard AEG mags.. And according to the catalogue they will be making the old thumbhole PDR-C as well yes! Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 My mistake. Saw ERG and Tokyo Marui in close proximity and came up with recoil shock. But still, that's AEG mags in a GBB? Gas in gun or hose? Link to post Share on other sites
beta678 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Finally indeed. The PDR-D was mentioned and a similar pic shown at the 2013 shot show, PTS/KWA is juse slow to release stuff. Think there's a pic of the lower floating around somewhere as well. Side profile looks rather KSG like, but think most people would prefer the look of the PDR-C profile with that integrated front grip, glad they're making both models. Though not fond of getting new set of gas mags... Link to post Share on other sites
johnc2k Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 PTS have released their whole 2015 catalogue.. there is a GBB listed but no info on an AEG as it is not included. One would assume they won't be making one. Link to catalog: http://ptssyndicate.us/content/PTS%202015%20CATALOG.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
WTF?Shane Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Interesante. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Wait, says gas blowback but uses TM recoil shock mags?!? TM are soon to release a M4A1 GBBR, which could easily come with 30/60 selectable mags. Perhaps that manes this is going to use such a system? One can hope........ 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
DrAlexanderTobacco Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 PTS are doing new stuff? Unff Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 It says it right in the picture "ERG EPM magazine with adjustable 30 or 60 round capacity" but it's probably a typo cut n pasted from the ERG Gun Specs. Sadly they son't seem to be making an ERG Version of this, quite fancied one for CQB. Bummer! Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 TM are soon to release a M4A1 GBBR, which could easily come with 30/60 selectable mags. Perhaps that manes this is going to use such a system? One can hope........ 'FireKnife' PTS and TM working together? Haha one can dream more like! Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Well, air is a gas, even in Sopmod style AEGs . That ERG/TM text points at AEG to me, but it's hard to tell for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 EPM M4 Magazine (GBBR) Features:GBBR magazine holds 38 rounds.Compatible with any LM4-based M4 GBBRs, including those by PTS, KSC and KWA.Comes in a full range of colors including Black, Flat Dark Earth OD Green, Urban Gray and others. Spec:Weight: 700g (approx.)Size: 185 x 85 x 30mm (approx.) Part No. TBAColor Code: 07 Black / 13 Dark EarthMSRP: TBA Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Hold up. PTS is coming out with a Masada GBBR? Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Hold up. PTS is coming out with a Masada GBBR? Yep, your may read about it in their catalog. Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 I guess it will use KWA/KSC GBB magazines then. Also there is an ERG Masada too. Link to post Share on other sites
First Man In Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Okay so I guess I'm totally out of the loop? I get that Magpul PTS went bye bye as Magpul was getting bad rep from people using the PTS products on RS stuff. So is this a whole new PTS that just is using the same design language? Or is PTS now a subsidy of KWA as a "professional training" line or some sort? Either way the PDR-D looks super cool. If it's going the route of being like a gas in reservoir system in the stock that'd make it perfect for an HPA setup. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 PTS dropped the 'Magpul' part a long time ago, same company has carried on, just doing other stuff. I presume since you can't mount a PTS gun on your real gun Magpul Industries didn't mind licensing for entire weapons. The full line up is listed in the catalogue of course, but everything that's GBB is using the LM4 system as with previous PTS gas weapons and there's plenty to come. They mentioned (possibly showed, can't recall) the gas/recoil ACR at previous SHOTs and they've also said they'd be replacing the Magpul line-up with their own designs over time; hence the EPM, the new pistol grip/stock/VFG, new sling point etc. I think the ATOM Glock side and other mounts from Unity Tactical are pretty sweet new additions as well. Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 The problem was never the Magpul PTS parts but the clones. The factory kept getting calls from people who had bought "Magpul" stocks or whatever and had problems. Subsequently they would turn out to be fakes. So they decided the best way to stop the clones was to pull out of airsoft, then anything coming into the states is obviously a fake and seized by customs. Problem solved, sorry airsofters. So Magpul PTS which was always a separate company changed there name to Professional Training Syndicate and started to develop other product lines.. Magpul has subsequently let them license certain thinks for a short period of time. As CK said full guns are not a problem, neither a airsoft mags be they ERG/AEG or GBB. They are know gradually bringing out there own stock pistols grips and other licensed products. At the moment all PTS Guns are made by KWA so if there a GBB they are LM4 Technology and if AEG they are the fantastic ERG. Link to post Share on other sites
WWJS? Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I'm really surprised to see new Magpul-related guns being released by PTS, it's good to know the PDR is still on the table, hopefully they'll eventually release it's integrated flashlight. What I really didn't see coming though, was the new Masada ERG, it really is a blast from the past from uscmCorps' 2009 Masada thread where, among many other things, an EBB Masada ACR was discussed; I wonder if both the new Masada ERG and GBBR retain some level of compatibility with parts from the previous Masada AEG's (hopefully some of the AEG externals are compatible). Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I never was a fan of the PDR-C, but the D variant looks pretty cool. I could see myself getting one. Wonder if they'll be giving any more information about it at shot show Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 There isn't a version with the D pistol grip and C thumbhole foregrip is there? Would be a dead ringer for a GITS M22. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 'Fraid not, AFAIK PTS have just replicated the two version that Magpul Industries designed. The C being the super-space-saver type for aircrew etc and the D.. well I've read stuff that implies it could've been aimed at use as a primary weapon for certain situations and being an 11.5" barrel running 556 and adding a manual safety over the C variant that's actually quite feasible. Link to post Share on other sites
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