kithooton Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Incentive Designs EDD Multi BFG 9mm or .209 Primer http://www.incentivedesigns.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Pretty cool I guess but I was hoping it did all five in quick succession like the NICOs and other stun grenades. If someone came out with one of those, I would definitely be interested. Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I thought exactly the same mate, I was hoping it was a multi bang. Still looks a very cool design. Shame they went with a pin not a twist top like the TRMR. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I guess it's highly dependent on site rules, but personally I wouldn't buy it if it fired all the shots in one sequence, one bang is usually a kill so you'd be wasting the other 4. I've not yet been to a skirmish where such devices actually were used for their stun effect rather than acting like 'frags' as it were. Never realistically considered picking up any sort of BFG before now, never really investigated them all that much in honesty. When I saw the reveal video for this design a few weeks back however I changed my mind, seems like the most practical option by a long way (imho). Agreed the pin is a slight minus but I do kinda like pulling a pin on a grenade I have to say. Shame the current order option is running shotgun primers, they're quite a lot louder than 9-millie if I remember correctly (i.e. excessive for skirmishing)? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 For me, it's just the added immersion, more realistic experience if it was multi bang in one go. Sure, it's a bit of a waste of 4 primers when a regular BFG would do the same job. As you say, they're always used as frag kills anyway. It just makes things a little more, ...terrifying if you're on the receiving end. Like most things in airsoft, it just comes down to the cool factor I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Primers are slightly less powerful than a 9mm/.380 blank, they are supposed to be more like a .22 long blank. I love my Dynatec/ police impact, 9mm is good but I'm considering getting a primer adapter on cost per bang grounds, 9mm = 50 for £15, .209= £7 for 100. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Yeah I mixed up 12 bore blanks and primers there. The ID site seems pretty poor tbh, nowhere on the page does it actually say "for shotgun primers", kinda basics. Had to dig around their facebook and another site to actually figure out what I'd be buying. 9mm would be cool and all but shotty primers will 'kill' exactly the same and seem to be less than half the price while putting out a lower dB level. Shame that it seems like you need to buy a whole other grenade to use a different cart type rather than just a different magazine, but I'd only carry one on me anyway for quite occasional usage. Might put in an order.. hmm.. Link to post Share on other sites
emergencychimp Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 While I can definitely see the appeal and its uses, I would imagine 2 other, cheaper bfgs, would be more useful. Mainly because often in urban environments you need to clear 2+ rooms and its not always practical to follow your bfg round to bang each room. I also think having all 5 (or however many you load) go off one after the other is useful as I have seen defending teams occupy rooms quickly after a bfg and it adds intensity to the attack. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Depends where you're playing; luckily the options are out there for different types of site and game. For the average sunday game at an indoor site I usually play a single small bang will do the job just fine. You can always save up to buy 2 or more, in which case you can then clear those multiple rooms and not have to stop and put in new carts. Of course you can get 2 TRMRs for a little more than one of these and they're quick to reload, which may suit some people better, but I'm a big fan of the idea of having just one item on my belt that can be chucked then re-armed enough times to cover a game's worth of play. No carrying around spare primers in a little bag etc. Don't really get the 'intensity' thing personally, if I was in the next room along/in cover then very moment the bangs have stopped I'd round said cover and get in to the room, just the same as the thrower. I don't think an awful lot of people who've been skirmishing for very long will feel any sort of fear or intimidation at such a device, it's really not capable of harming you. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 This does have a drawback Imo though it is cool. I can see it being thrown back by a defender that has pushed back into the room before the attackers got in there. Which though funny could get people whining and much butt hurt would flow. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 People have mentioned this, but: 1. Every site I've been to has said you're not to touch other people's BFGs. Pretty clear about that in the game briefing. 2. I wouldn't ever chuck a grenade then just stand there and not follow it in. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 multishot would just be cool. No other reason needed haha Link to post Share on other sites
emergencychimp Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 The intensity thing I refer to in the build up at some events, at several tier 1 events with the dawn raids etc the multi bangs I have heard have added to the ramp up in noise and anticipation of raids about to kick off etc, not necessarily a practical advantage just a nice add to the atomoshphere. I think the design and idea are excellent for some circumstances and a standard day game skirmish this could be brilliant but for intense cqb action I think 2 or 3 single use bfgs would be more practical. And I'm to going to get more bfgs for exactly that reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Griff762 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I heard a rumor that the est retail price for these will be £115, quite expensive compared to other UK made BFG's but I guess innovation needs paying for. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I heard a rumor that the est retail price for these will be £115, quite expensive compared to other UK made BFG's but I guess innovation needs paying for. £115 Is the pre order price according to the photo in the first post, having very nearly lost BFGs I'd be inclined to buy 2 oshiboom impact BFGs for that amount, the idea is nice and I don't think the price is high for what it is, but it's too high for me to want to throw them anywhere they could get lost. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Retail is £132, I just got in on the 'early order' at the 115 mark. Hence why I mentioned you could almost get 2 TRMRs for the money. Less than £30 difference after P&P. Link to post Share on other sites
Griff762 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Same sort of reaction they got for their other stuff like the Venom. High price point for most people but it seems there's a decent amount of people buying their stuff to keep em going. Link to post Share on other sites
M_P Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I'll probably be ordering one tomorrow too, it's a pricey outlay but for just 5p a bang after that it'll pay itself off after a while. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Very interested. I'll send you a msg Chris. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I haven't ever heard the don't touch thing in a briefing but I agree it should be obvious. I just pointed out what my first thought was in terns of the multishot. As for not following it in that's not what I was meaning. it's just I have seen a fair few times in cqb people throw the bang in and the defense drop back out of range or into hard cover before repulsing the attack. It isn't a case of not following it in just a well entrenched defense can hold onto a room even when fragged. I am honestly debating buying one just like people say 2 ohsiboom's/trmr versus this thing is a hard pill to swallow. Although the innovation is amazing and I love the idea of carrying magazines of grenades so I don't have to faff with a full reload. I am really impressed by some of the stuff these guys are putting out onto the market. I am waiting for different flash hider designs using the venom sy stem and wondering whether one could put a tracer setup in it. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Same sort of reaction they got for their other stuff like the Venom. High price point for most people but it seems there's a decent amount of people buying their stuff to keep em going. I'd be quite interested to know how they work actually, I looked at their 'Our Team' page a while ago and was suprised by the sheer number of people apparantly involved there, my best guess would be that they are either an established engineering or design business doing airsoft on the side, I'd be amazed if it was a full income for any of them rather than just a sideline. I also kept track of the online stock levels of the Venom on some of their stockists websites for a while and not at all suprisingly the stock levels moved slowly, to me it looks like a classic case of very nice innovative products but also ones that are pretty niche and in relatively low demand. I'll probably be ordering one tomorrow too, it's a pricey outlay but for just 5p a bang after that it'll pay itself off after a while. That's true of all BFGs though, but an Oshiboom or original Dynatex BFG could pay for itself in half the time and to me that's half the time in which to be able to lose it/have it stolen before it's paid for itself. Link to post Share on other sites
heroshark Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 More timed bfg options would be nice ,especially if they could be made a little smaller and quicker to load. Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I think Renagadecow is/was working on timed bfg along those lines Heroshark. Jim. Link to post Share on other sites
Griff762 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Airsoft is definitely a side buisness for them but they're very passionate about it; hence them already making like four different products already and further expanding the venom series Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Iirc renegadecow was working on a pvc big. Link to post Share on other sites
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