bankz5152 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 So how does this thing fire? You load up real 12g shells with what ever you like, minus the primer. All ive read its a bit like the Maruzen BV system, is it an internal tank? External line? Surely crimping the top of the shells properly is going to make performance drop off the map! Probably better to cut the shell down and use a paper cap on top. On my phone my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I think it said internal tank in the stock didn't it? EDIT: Yes, it was. - keep enough gas to shoot 40-60 shots (classic buttstock) Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Anyone else think this is as close to perfect as we'll get in an airsoft shotgun? Shell ejecting but they're cheap enough to not pick up, gas powered internal tank, reliable mechanism and good build quality. Sounds like what I had in my head like 5 years ago. Not sure if having a proper airsoft barrel would make it better or worse. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Exactly. I blow through 250 12Gs every other weekend so thats plent of hulls for me to use! I'd never bother picking them up. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yeah, it's pretty much perfect, perhaps a 88g co2 tank in the stock, with another refilling point (like Devilhunter's GHK magazine mod for refillable CO2), cheap shells, and no inner barrel for sure imo... and for an HPA version you could even afford to start going semi-auto... Benelli style.. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Col now this seems to be perfect now all we need to know is price and wht sort of power level people will let us use and how to prove it is safe/chrono it. And yeah I was thinking kill with oil to be honest due to primed cases being cheaper. Now a possible semi auto design could make so many options availible. If it is as simple a system as it sounds we could get whatever shotgun and stock we like especially if it is just a case of feeding the 'engine' with HPA. Plus people like Bankz could be onto a nice littLe earner for the club/org he shoots with acquiring used shells for people on forums. I know I'd happily pay my £€$¥ to other airsofters for used shells rather than buying from the Web and that clubs would love a way to make £€¥$ from what to them is trash. Littering could be an issue though so I would probably run a shell catcher in woodland and in indoor cqb would offer to assist in cleanup of the shells. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 For sure! If enough people are interested ill speak to my club, bring a bag home when needed sell them all for the price of postage & packaging. I dont home load so they have no value to me. On my phone my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Awesome, now we just need the gun.... Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 I'll take one if there's a way to run HPA so you can install whatever furniture you like Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 So hard to wait checking the thread over and over. Link to post Share on other sites
Prev Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Saw this earlier in the week on another website. Just need to find out if the company will ship outside of Russa and we are pre-ordering 3. Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Question for my fellow Yanks- is there anywhere to easily get unprimed shotshells? All the empty hulls I see come already primed. I suppose I could go to the range, take back my hulls, and deprime them, but I'm not sure how being fired affects the plastic at the crimp. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 not that I would really know, but the plastic crimp stays mostly intact after being fired. and I don't think reloading shot shells requires resizing, especially for this purpose. But I would look up some videos of shot shell reloading to get the strait *suitcase*. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Any news guys? Link to post Share on other sites
Lancaster Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Any news guys? There are some Loading mechanism was finished last week. Valves, bolt, springs and other bits and bobs are ready as well. Due to overwhelming online demand from theoretical prospects with no correlation with real market demand manufacturer introduced 5K Rub (less than $100) downpayment for those who want to get shotgun from the first batch. Plus as Russian economy sucks nowadays they offer some kind of instalment payment scheme, but I'm not sure how it looks like. In the same time they've started pre-orders for several other shotgun models and if they will collect enough orders for break-even (Mossberg 590A1 with steel reciever, 25K Rub ($385); SPAS 12 - pump-acton only, more than 25K Rub; Benelli M3, 25K Rub; Benelli M4 semi-auto action, at least double the price of pump-action shotguns; Double barrel shotguns, 25K Rub; Winchester 1897 Trenchgun, 30K Rub ($460); Vyiepr VPO 205 (or how it should be written in English?), 40K+ ($615+), HPA power-sourced, uses RS Mags and external furniture) next may come this summer. Feasibility to add second model will be confirmed after they will move to another premises - ex fire depot as today they share some resources with miniguns and mortars line. Which model will be chosen to be the second one depends on demand. And we all know that a lot of people online say "Shut up and take my money" when they read the news, but there is always at least 75% loss risk in the funnel. Link to post Share on other sites
harborne blue Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Winchester trench gun? Holy shell ejection, Batman! Needs pics! Needs to buy! Aaaargh! Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 SPAS 12 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now for some sense... If I have the cash when that comes around ill be buying one straight away. I assume theres no issues shipping from Russia to the UK? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Just the slooooooooow Russian postal service heh. But I guess that can be avoided by a courier. Link to post Share on other sites
Zombie00 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 14 joules... Ouch. With most paintballs, 300FPS (which is a common limit, at least on the majority of western countries) means you're around the 12-13 joules mark. 14 joules being the legal limit isn't anything surprising and probably not uncommon among the countries that have some sort of legislation on the power limit of this types of toy guns. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Benelli M4, semi auto, real shells... gotta be honest that seriously fits the too-good-to-be-true bracket in my mind. Love to be proved wrong and have it come out, be obtainable and safe to be skirmished in the UK of course. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 SPAS 12 is a priority. what's the timeline look like? its going to take a while to save up $400-$500. Link to post Share on other sites
Lancaster Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 I assume theres no issues shipping from Russia to the UK? Well I've tried once to send SR3-M to Blobface using postal service - the problem is anything weapon lookalike prohibited for international mail delivery both in and out the country. Though airsoft is totaly legal. Hence the easiest is to come and buy or find one who will bring the shotgun to the UK. Or wait until international start of sales. @CKinnerley totaly agree that it sounds too-good-to-be-true, and I personaly think that kind of product cannot be top notch quality in the begining if made somewhere in workshop as they have to realease it fast due to limited R&D+Quality control resourses Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 tbh given the scale of the operation if you haven't had stuff shipped out of Russia let alone a RIF then I think... adjust expectations accordingly Link to post Share on other sites
harborne blue Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Once there's a stock ready to ship, get in touch with a big UK retailer like www.JDAirsoft.net - they can sell them on pre-order and sort out shipping to the UK. That's how they got the first Garands to UK shooters when they came out. Link to post Share on other sites
kelvinator85 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Have you think about selling a "drop in kit". So it will be easier to ship worldwide KWA Rm4 PTS erg Tokyo Marui G17 WeTech 1911 Link to post Share on other sites
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