hitmanNo2 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I guess you're most likely deploying the trip wire if you're a sniper to try and stop people sneaking up behind you. Link to post Share on other sites
Cannonfodder80 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Could be useful for booby trapping objectives too Link to post Share on other sites
dapprman Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 There is one thing that crossed my mind a\bout the mortar. The shells are gas powered - just how much gas - as they need to push out the water buffer as well as the balloon - and get 150m range. Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Ironically, most of us use things like G36Cs and 10" CQBRs, even AKs, which with the type of round and ballistics, really doesn't throw lead that consistently. I would say subguns would get you 40-60m consistent hits (9mm hits pretty flat and accurate at 100m though it would need to be in a carbine form, though .45s are a bit more like paintball guns), and most assault rifles out to 150m without optics. Any more and its a combination of guesswork and experience. Its not that far from airsoft really, where sub guns will get 40-60m accuracy, and a rifle with a good M150 with a flat hop will give 80m consistent hits. Considering most AEGs have around 50-60 meters effective range, 150 meters for a mortar sounds fine, sure that's much less than a real mortar but then AEGs do much less than the 300-500 meters a real assault rifle does as skarclaw mentioned. Besides, quite a lot of airsoft sites are probably smaller than the effective range of a real medium mortar system. Though point, most sites are not going to be that big to warrant a realistic mortar Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Yeah it's going to be something for scenario and MilSim games rather than regular skirmishes and obviously the sites will have to be big enough to warrant it. We use pyro mortars at Eversley quite frequently though, they don't have as much range but they can definately be handy for fire support and as a psychological weapon. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Hate to be 'that guy', but isn't launching pyro illegal here? Apologies if not Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 From my reading of the law only if it is fin stabilised. We are using this for purposes that seem to be protected. IANAL nor did I stay in a holiday express recently. If my opinion is incorrect I am happy to refund exactly what you paid for it. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Haha! Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 The 40 MM pyro's seem to be getting into the country ok so either they are legal as Paranoiddroid says due to not being fin stabilised or customs is too busy trying to keep out illegal immigrants with the election looming to be bothered about illegal exlosives being imported into the country lol Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 From what I've seen, fin or spin stabilised are essentially the same legally. The Prohibition specifies "not for pyrotechnic purposes" though, which is probably why they're ok, seeing as we throw smokes and bangs for the pyrotechnic effect of smoke and/or bang. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Cool. Apologies for thread derailment Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 The pyro mortar rounds that ninja master of coffee is talking about are probably the TLSFX ones that are manufactured in the UK anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
NightFury Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 If any of you guys have watched Kingsman, I'd say integrating that mini launcher to a Tokarev would be pretty awesome. Ooops, didn't look close enough, it's actually a Colt 1908 Hammerless. Or is it a TT30. I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 The pyro mortar rounds that ninja master of coffee is talking about are probably the TLSFX ones that are manufactured in the UK anyway. They're totally legit, and Tony spent a long time ensuring that they are legal to use. We had a long conversation about them at a pyro training course a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 If any of you guys have watched Kingsman, I'd say integrating that mini launcher to a Tokarev would be pretty awesome. Ooops, didn't look close enough, it's actually a Colt 1908 Hammerless. Or is it a TT30. I don't know. They're TT-30s. Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 The pyro mortar rounds that ninja master of coffee is talking about are probably the TLSFX ones that are manufactured in the UK anyway.Those are indeed the ones, as QQexDERA says completely legal and also no more risky than any other airsoft use pyro. The only down side is that they're not particularly accurate and their low weight means they can get hung up on twigs and foliage, though again that is true of any card case pyro. Use of them tends to work like a knee or commando mortar, close to medium range fire support. Edit: the accuracy isn't terrible either, without obstruction they go more or less in a straight line and the range you get is fairly consistent. They just won't fly as straight as something that spins which is why I wonder about fin stabalised chalk marker rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
Korppi Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 To those wondering how to generally aim an commando mortar: the slings is marked for ranges. Step on the wanted mark and angle that 90° to the mortal and your good to drop a shell. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I was planning on using them next weekend, but our weekender has been cancelled due to a date change dropping numbers. There will always be another time... Boom... (Not me) Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 If those rollers would cover 360 degrees with a electronic timed fuse. My god... Link to post Share on other sites
aaron2310 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Wow. Some fun looking stuff in there. I especially like the mines and remote controlled grenades. Really curious to see them in action though. Link to post Share on other sites
Trap Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 If the roly grenade is half decent this could be my first reusable airsoft grenade. I like the idea of the orings making the bbs spin off in all directions. Cant wait to see what kind of force it puts behind said bbs. Need vids now! Link to post Share on other sites
Jibbity Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 If those rollers would cover 360 degrees with a electronic timed fuse. My god... Yes, an electronically timed grenade is needed! Link to post Share on other sites
lee stephenson Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Only problem is that they may be similar to the Tornado grenades, an amazing, fun toy, but as they don't go bang, many players don't count them as a grenade..... Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I agree players often dont "feel" hits from bb grenades, I think a version which took 0.209 primers or 0.380 blanks would work better for the UK scene where BFG's are commonly accepted. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
lee stephenson Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I agree players often dont "feel" hits from bb grenades, I think a version which took 0.209 primers or 0.380 blanks would work better for the UK scene where BFG's are commonly accepted. Jim A rolling, remotely detonated BFG running off 9mm blanks would be amazing!! Link to post Share on other sites
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