vorpalbunnie Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Got to fondle it at the Shizuoka hobby show yesterday Felt great and the firing tests were impressive: Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Sweet, i think it having its own thread is perfectly fine. Vorpal, could you confirm or deny if any of the parts that are supposed to be metal are? like the sights, outer barrel, and internal frame? i understand that the body is probably ABS, but did it feel solid or hollow? and one more thing, could you give us a weight estimate? i may have just missed that. EDIT: i did miss the weight. hyperdouraku said the weight was 4.2kg which is a little over 9 pounds. i gotta get more pumped up. im a *badgeress* when it comes to the weight of my guns. but by the gods, i will own and use the *suitcase* out of one. gotta rip some one liners out of predators and expendables. i promise you guys that if i can get one when they come out, i will be the first to take it apart and show you the guts. Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 It felt very solid and quite back heavy, a little hollow-ish but that's kind of to be expected with the AA-12. Very bulky and heavy though! Kind of uncomfortable to operate the mag release on my first try. Plus with a body so simple and large I couldn't find a "natural" position to hold it in (unlike with an AK where it's pretty defined). Metal parts felt...metally. Sorry for lame answer but they didn't strike me as awful so that's one thing. Didn't touch anything else :\ But the mag release and bits are metal. THOUGH, at least on the demo unit the charging handle was not spring loaded. It better be on the release version or else I'll be pretty sad. Ejection port cover looks reaaaaally flat and lame in person. Here's my album of all the photos I took. Please keep them on Arnies though. http://imgur.com/a/5Rv2w Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 although i'm really skeptical, there's talk going around the japanese forums that they are aiming to price it under the next gen recoil series, if so that should be under 400.... Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 although i'm really skeptical, there's talk going around the japanese forums that they are aiming to price it under the next gen recoil series, if so that should be under 400.... That would be golden. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Again, I need more lame excuses to resist the urge to buy one when it is released =( Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Let's face it. You're going to get one. Don't resist ha ha. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Again, I need more lame excuses to resist the urge to buy one when it is released =( It'd help the Japanese economy if you bought their goods. Enough of a reason? Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 As the Al-blond-haired Thor Said in Avengers2: "She tried to mess with my mind, fortunately, I - AM- MIGHTY!" And yes, I will unnecesarily buy one along so many useless guns and a drum =( EDIT: Rob15, thanks for your concern, but I spent a month in Japan and those are awesome guys/gals, supporting them would be a pleasure. You are not helping my already crippled budget Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 whoops sorry, since the next gen m4's are around 500ish in japan, I wouldn't say under 400 but in the 400sstill not a bad price for new tech though! edit: found the tweet in context, https://twitter.com/TM_Airsoft/status/599100919280730112 it will be between the price of a standard aeg and a next gen, so 450-500 is not a bad estimate. Also looking at some of the other posts, the outside will indeed be ABS and not nylon polymer. Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 The Hyperdouraku post confirmed that everything was metal what is metal on the real gun and the shell is indeed ABS but seemed well done: solid, strong and no creak. Link to post Share on other sites
smiffyraf1 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 looks amazing and NEED one in my life however due to rip off britain cant see it being under 500 over here plus if you have one the drum mag is a necessity Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 im just going to wait for someone to release larger capacity mid caps. i really dont want the drum mag. its marui, nothing is going to be proprietary for long. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Those mags could hold about 180 or 200 rds, so yes, i agree XD Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Looks like the mag feeds from one regular port... Stuff a hi-cap inside if you cant wait for one to come out. Any info on release date? Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Apparently late August in Japan/HK Link to post Share on other sites
CatgutViolin Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I really don't understand what they're going for with a 90rd magazine. It could clearly hold a lot more, and if the gun is 10 shots per second as advertised then that's three seconds of automatic fire, pretty awful for a magazine the size and shape of a brick. It's not like most people are going to be able to carry even four or five of them comfortably, and why even get an AA-12 if you don't intend to spray full-auto from the hip with minimal aiming. I was planning on buying the gun plus the drum anyways, just trying to figure out what they're thinking. Is this their way of reminding us that a full auto mag-fed shotgun is a poor idea in the real world? Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 really can't wait to dsg this bad boy! although on a serious note, is it select fire on just full auto? i know the real one is just auto but that would pose a problem for here in slightly atlas where most cqb sites are single only. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Not sure if it was just good trigger discipline, but in one of the videos, you can see the user firing semi auto, then changing to full auto. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I really don't understand what they're going for with a 90rd magazine. It could clearly hold a lot more, and if the gun is 10 shots per second as advertised then that's three seconds of automatic fire, pretty awful for a magazine the size and shape of a brick. It's not like most people are going to be able to carry even four or five of them comfortably, and why even get an AA-12 if you don't intend to spray full-auto from the hip with minimal aiming. I was planning on buying the gun plus the drum anyways, just trying to figure out what they're thinking. Is this their way of reminding us that a full auto mag-fed shotgun is a poor idea in the real world? As not everyone would want more. Its pretty close to the RS as well. Maybe its about reducing the spaming everyone is on about. And the drum is there for those that do. Plus mag fed shotguns are amazing. on my phone, my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 It has a fire selector. Link to post Share on other sites
T3CH Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I expect someone will make 3rd party highcap (non drum) mags for it in due course. Link to post Share on other sites
luke213 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I expect tm will make a highcap available as well beyond the drum. If you look at their normal offerings they typically come with a non hicap with the gun(or used to I haven't bought a tm in almost 10 years). But they always offered the option of a hicap mag. I don't think we'll see a ton of other mags out there until someone starts cloning the gun and it becomes popular. But that said I think it will be interesting to see how it works once it's available. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Never mind, just found some better pictures that show the fire selector with semi being between safe and fun, very ready for this now I must say that it is a bit irritating that the standard mag has only 90 rounds but then like people say it stops the super spam, where as the drum totally doesn't! Plus changing magazines is fun, nothing more boring than Coming back from a game and having the same magazine you went out with Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Agreed. But the drum mag looks so cool and kind of makes the gun. I think I can put up with it even though I'm not into hi caps. Link to post Share on other sites
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