BioRage Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Okay, couildn't find any info on these bad boys. Redwolf made it seem like it's a lot better then the original epic 5.1, so.. Any PERSONAL thoughts and reviews? Thanks! YT: Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Think I'll nab one just to have another hi cap tbh... Link to post Share on other sites
16kuokhc1 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 In other news (here in HK): A whole batch of Hi-Capa gold match pistols were found without o-rings between the outer barrel and the inner barrel, causing *albatross* accuracy. Quote from facebook, from a guy named Bonson: "i went back to Guns and Guys. They beat my expectations and were super nice about it. Tried fixing my gun for free and made improvement by adding oring to help center the inner barrel. It still wasn't perfect. And they showed me that ALL gold match have the same problem." Link to post Share on other sites
BerserkDS Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Marui doesn't have orings in their outer barrels. I'm confused? Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 elite shooting centre are stocking these http://eliteshootingcentre.co.uk/Gas%20Guns/Gas%20Pistols/Items/Gold%20match.htm. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Marui doesn't have orings in their outer barrels. I'm confused? They do not indeed. So what is the point of the HK story, if it is even real to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Could be a worse price... Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted August 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Here's a nice write up from one of our shotgun gurus over on AirsoftCanada, he points out the difference on the 5.1 match and his old 4.3 http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=173924 Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 TL;DR 1. Slide and sub frame now built like their 1911 with the metal insert for the slide catch. 2. Barrel assembly built like the Detonics which is spring loaded. Link to post Share on other sites
16kuokhc1 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 They do not indeed. So what is the point of the HK story, if it is even real to begin with. Presumably Marui QC problems..... (Guns & Guys are a very reputable shop here) But as far as Hicapas work, I do not know much about them... Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Presumably Marui QC problems..... (Guns & Guys are a very reputable shop here) But as far as Hicapas work, I do not know much about them... There is no issue with the TM Gold Match. The barrel is spring loaded; since the outer barrel's inner diameter is slightly wider than the inner barrel's outer diameter, the barrel is bound to be pressed against the side of the barrel due to the spring force. This is why the inner barrel is not "centered" with the outer barrel. Also, a "non-centered" barrel doesn't affect accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 TL;DR 1. Slide and sub frame now built like their 1911 with the metal insert for the slide catch. 2. Barrel assembly built like the Detonics which is spring loaded. I really wish TM were less resistant to pushing out newer versions of their guns. We are long overdue a revamp of their previous GBBs using the 15mm BBU architecture. The fact that new guns - the Gold Match, the M9A1, the P226 E2, the Sentinel Nine, the Series 70 - are being released with the obsolete older architecture and lacking cosmetic improvements like moving firing pins etc. is disheartening. TM have disproportionate influence in the GBB marketplace, and could push forward innovations and improvements such that the aftermarket just has to support a newer standard - I think it's a shame that they aren't. Presumably Marui QC problems..... (Guns & Guys are a very reputable shop here) I was confused by this story when you posted it on Reddit, and I'm still confused by it. I've not seen anywhere that these guns are supposed to have O-rings in their outer barrels; none of the other Hi-Capas do AFAIK. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Presumably Marui QC problems..... (Guns & Guys are a very reputable shop here) But as far as Hicapas work, I do not know much about them... Guns N Guys were my favorite shop to buy from... do they have an online shop anymore? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
16kuokhc1 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Guns N Guys were my favorite shop to buy from... do they have an online shop anymore? Thanks! They have a facebook page. Not sure if you can buy from that, though: https://www.facebook.com/pages/%E5%90%8D%E9%8E%97%E5%BA%97-Guns-And-Guys-Co/234954779966840?sk=timeline Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I've not seen anywhere that these guns are supposed to have O-rings in their outer barrels; none of the other Hi-Capas do AFAIK. The inner barrel has an o-ring retaining the spring for the outer barrel as per the Detonics' design. If this is the same o-ring mentioned that would mean having the outer barrel flopping about when cycling. But even then it shouldn't really affect the inner barrel's performance by much, if at all. Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I know the specific local Facebook group thread the "o-ring on barrel" issue came up on; suffice to say that it's based on misinformation. Someone suggested that the offset inner barrel can be fixed with adding an o-ring at the muzzle end to wedge the barrel back into the center of the outer barrel and this somehow turned to "TM Gold Matches are missing an o-ring on the outer barrel". I honestly don't know why this issue was being spread throughout the international forums; seems quite obvious that the problem is the owner of the Gold Match in question, rather than with the gun itself... Link to post Share on other sites
16kuokhc1 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I know the specific local Facebook group thread the "o-ring on barrel" issue came up on; suffice to say that it's based on misinformation. Someone suggested that the offset inner barrel can be fixed with adding an o-ring at the muzzle end to wedge the barrel back into the center of the outer barrel and this somehow turned to "TM Gold Matches are missing an o-ring on the outer barrel". I honestly don't know why this issue was being spread throughout the international forums; seems quite obvious that the problem is the owner of the Gold Match in question, rather than with the gun itself... Well, thanks about the new info! Do you have any comment from guns & guys? Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 lol, ive had that before. someone brings their gun back to me saying that its "inaccurate" when i have no problem hitting targets with it. "sir, you should probably shop for bbs outside of wal-mart." Link to post Share on other sites
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