bladerunner168 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 http://www.hyperdouraku.com/event/marui_fes2015/index.html Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Cool, can't wait to try it out, you getting one? Seems like a lot of work to just make sure the bolt stop doesn't wear out, the cooldown performance has to be significantly better than a GHK to justify how much less realistic the internals are! Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I can't help but think they're over engineered this time round.... But yes, I will still buy one. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I will be buying one too! I am expecting good things on cool down here.. And hopefully with Marui's pixie dust on the hop! Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Sod realistic innards if it shoots and shoots well like most other Marui's it will be great. Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 What in sam hell..? Link to post Share on other sites
farrasdevell Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Trust this to happen the week after I buy a GHK! I see where they have taken the design but I'm not sold on it. I do however expect it will run sweetly and shoot well untll something gives out then all hell will brake loose. I look forward to seeing the reviews as they surface. Link to post Share on other sites
kyon Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Hm... I'm going to be in Japan for like the next 10 weeks, I wonder if I can bring one back through customs. I do actually like that they didn't just go with what's already in the market just so we can get more variety. If that actually equals performance is still all speculation but crossing my fingers. Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I own a GHK m4, all modded out. Im still going to buy this one, time to start saving up again. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Here's to hoping it holds green gas. With their obscenely complicated M870 I was a bit disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites
harborne blue Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Here's to hoping it holds green gas. With their obscenely complicated M870 I was a bit disappointed. +1 to that: works with green and still clocks in at sub 350 fps please. Loved the m870 when I played with someone elses but not enough to buy one and have the hassle of getting the thing to run in a UK winter on weak gas. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I notice there are after market CNCd gas tanks for the 870 now. Hopefully that will change things. Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Wow, just saw this, it's all speculation at the moment but all those extra moving parts which are probable made from zinc alloy are going to die on green gas. One of the best things for me about marui products in the past, was the simplicity of there design. This meant upgrading, fixing and maintaining was relatively easy. This is going to have to be a real performer to nock GHK from there perch, but it's obviously designed for a different market. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I notice there are after market CNCd gas tanks for the 870 now. Hopefully that will change things. Angry Gun stock and HPA nipple. Cold and tank problems solved. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Angry Gun stock and HPA nipple. Cold and tank problems solved. Any chance you got a good part list for that? I might consider doing that for mine. Already got the stock. Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 HPA is laaaaaaame Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Yeap, no HPA for us here... got a guy tested on .20 just onder 350( the limit ) and started using .40 in a breacher for CQB... Can you imagine the chaos? Link to post Share on other sites
harborne blue Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Just don't get HPA - major cost hike after you've bought a high end AEG, even more kit to carry around and zero recoil? Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Yeap, no HPA for us here... got a guy tested on .20 just onder 350( the limit ) and started using .40 in a breacher for CQB... Can you imagine the chaos? Isn't that more of an argument against setting site limits in fps with a low weight round rather than in joules though? Imo it would be more sensible for sites to chrono with a heavier round and have the limit in joules, particually with gas guns where energy creep is higher. EDIT : Also that's not a problem exclusive to HPA, you can get the same effect with a regular GBBr using a naps and heavier rounds than it's been chronoed with, or any gas gun that's just below limits with .20s for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Just don't get HPA - major cost hike after you've bought a high end AEG, even more kit to carry around and zero recoil? I use the same rig for the 870, my Polarstar SCAR-H and my two Daytonas. In a single sentence I have justified the expense (as if I needed to in an airsoft board) and the recoil. But yeah, not really interested in the argument. I use all types of airsoft guns, so whoever wants to stay in a single corner, be my guest. My experience is round. Blobface, for the gun you just need the CQB Russian HPA adapter. Unscrew the loading valve, screw the adapter in. Done. As extra, you need the HPA bottle and the line. I use a Redline Firebase with a single QD for the gun. Regular ones have two QDs for reg and gun side. I'd go with one. And not to derail this completely, I like the ZET system, but I cannot but wonder if the bodies are made of cheese, like the Recoil Shock ones... Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Looks very interesting. Also, I knew he'd be talking in Japanese, but I still turned the speakers on for it. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yeap, no HPA for us here... got a guy tested on .20 just onder 350( the limit ) and started using .40 in a breacher for CQB... Can you imagine the chaos? Your problem is not with HPA... but with cheaters and douchenozzles... Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 I will stick with ghk and dhmod mags. This system looks stupidity over complicated just like the m870. As it stands I dont see the need to buy a marui. Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 It seems like they solved problems with engineering instead of using better materials/surface treatment. However, once it is released we will get to see if it is an over-engineered failure or a new milestone in the GBBR market. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 I have to say I agree with emp3ror86 - I'm a bit concerned that this is engineering around using low-quality metals, instead of upgrading the parts strength. That said, I don't care at all what the gun looks like inside so long as it runs well - and there's certainly room for improvement in the market in that area. This system looks stupidity over complicated just like the m870. The M870 is not 'stupidly over-complicated' - it has to be that complex internally to be able to do the things that it does, like feed three (or six - selectable at the flick of a switch no less) BBs into three separate hop-ups and barrels from a single feed source. The M870 needs to be complicated; the M4A1 MWS doesn't, necessarily. Blobface, for the gun you just need the CQB Russian HPA adapter. Unscrew the loading valve, screw the adapter in. Done. The CQB Russian adapters are widely considered fragile and low flow - less of a problem for a single-action gun (like a shotgun) than an automatic GBB, admittedly, but still not exactly ringing praise. I would definitely recommend tapping for a more conventional and possibly self-sealing fitting. Link to post Share on other sites
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