LightningLion Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Anyone at the IWA to tell us the new releases?What I've seen on social media: G28 GBB, 999€And finally, for all DevGru boys: Umarex HK45CT (YAY!) for 230€ (NAY!)It's unknown who'll make newer Umarex pistols: KWA or VFC/Stark Arms. Link to post Share on other sites
Bada Bing Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Wow! [ Want it to be KWA. No like VFC, they no good. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Wolverine (the SMP guys) are there with their new solenoid VSR bolt (still battery powered, but no FCU) and a new type of air stock that replaces standard AR buffer tubes and powers HPA solenoid guns with .12g co2 capsules through a quarter turn QD cap. They are also planning on making a version of the air stock that will fit in a VSR stock. Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 That HPA bolt might be what finally makes me get a BASR. Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 I'm just so hyped for the HK45CT, wanted one when the whole HK45 thing started and sorta settled with the full sized when I bought my TM. hearing about all the issues with the KWA, I'm willing to give VFC a chance on this one as I for one had a positive experience with the Glocks. edit: guh, more ridiculous pricing... Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 I've had really good luck with the 4 Walther PPQ's I have so I cant complain about VFC. Normally not a big fan of Hk pistols but if this turn out to be good, I'm going to buy it. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Want VP9. Link to post Share on other sites
LightningLion Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Never had a Stark Arms pistol. But all Glock owners I've met seem very satisfied with 'em. Hope they make a CO2 version with the extended mag used by DevGru. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 da fudge is that pricing on the VP9? Don't do that FNX to us again... If some of these new GBB pistols are going to end up being £200 they'd better be bloody nice and if they're VFC OEM they'll want to be a step up from the M&Ps and Glocks. I'll admit the VP9 I handled did feel a cut above the average pistol in the 100-150 range, so maybe it'll be worth it. Fingers crossed. Have to say, personally, as modern as it might be, the prospect of that G28 just fills me with nope. 20 round mag, gonna weigh a ton once you've got a scope on there (worse with a bi-pod, any more than that and you're either hulk or crazy) and highly possible they'll be very much mediocre in the internals department given all the problems I've read about with the 417. Hate to be a downer on it, but that screams collection/plinker gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 That HPA bolt might be what finally makes me get a BASR. http://shop-mancraft.com/en/ The ASF have been using these for a while now. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 CKinnerly, reading the last part of your post reminded me of a video/post on a firearms blog about the PSG1, and how despite the G28 being developed by the same company for the German military's "modern" requirements, the PSG1 actually fires better still. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 I've seen the same video, t'was a good one. Though I think the PSG1 probably weighs about twice as much still and would cost even more times as much (if they were to make any more), being a setup CT weapon for police in urban areas vs military usage running about. Though I'd take a TM PSG1 over this G28 for sure, whether I was paying for it or being given the choice of having one for free. Link to post Share on other sites
LightningLion Posted March 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Sooo. Apparently VFC are upgrading their V2 gearboxes once again, adding quick-spring change and integrated mosfet. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I remember wanting the HK45C bad, so got the full size instead. Very tempting. Nice the SEAL impression guys now have a new handgun besides them all having the P226. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Sooo. Apparently VFC are upgrading their V2 gearboxes once again, adding quick-spring change and integrated mosfet. Imagine that, companies actually catching up with the trends at last. If ICS and G&P (maybe even TM??) start doing the same we might FINALLY get these things as standard; 5 years over-due. Here's hoping they'll go back to some realistic externals with the new internals. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunnman Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 CKinnerly, reading the last part of your post reminded me of a video/post on a firearms blog about the PSG1, and how despite the G28 being developed by the same company for the German military's "modern" requirements, the PSG1 actually fires better still. You can thank the roller-delayed blowback system for that. Very few AR-15 variants can outmatch it; both the PSG-1 (or MSG-90 for the military) and G28 are great pieces of contemporary weponary. But I'm really excited about the HK45 CT. The only tactical pistol I've found attractive. Never owned a stark arms pistol but I would give them a try if it was made by them. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I'm just so hyped for the HK45CT, wanted one when the whole HK45 thing started and sorta settled with the full sized when I bought my TM. hearing about all the issues with the KWA, I'm willing to give VFC a chance on this one as I for one had a positive experience with the Glocks. edit: guh, more ridiculous pricing... Issues? Mines rock solid. Probably 4,000 rounds through thus far, very accurate, excellent range never skipped a beat With any luck at all KWA will be making the G28 too on my phone, my spelling will suck Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Seems unlikely verging on impossible for KWA to be doing the G28. VFC already did it in AEG form and already have the HK417 GBBr, whereas KWA's OEM are no doubt tied up making the PTS/MEGA MATEN 308 GBBr. Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I want more info about VFC's shotgun but everyone out there making 100s of photos of everything except for them. > Link to post Share on other sites
LightningLion Posted March 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Yeah for what I've seen on social networks people at IWA aren't making many detailed photos, dunno why... Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 was there anything else there besides HK stuff?? Link to post Share on other sites
The Insider Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/hkclassicarmy/ They had their Scarab and Nemesis M4's on show.... and shotgunsNot that you can see them well in the pictures. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 MOSFETs as standard from CA as well. Vive la revolution. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Yeah, lots of CA mentions lately, some retailers making videos on them like some great CA revival. EDIT: From what I am reading from Popular Airsoft's trip report, cyberscum has been going around to various booths and demanding certain designs be removed from display, even bring police along. Link to post Share on other sites
LightningLion Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Cyber*fruitcage*tards... Apparently umarex will abbandon airsoft products and sell their licenses to Cybershit... Link to post Share on other sites
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