fnc Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Black version : Silver version : Brand new frame : Fire control unit : Full pictures and detail comment link here: http://www.arms-cool.net/forum/thread-170717-1-1.html Test fire and assembling / disassembling video link here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RooZ-aXViA0 Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 So this is the 2016 version 1911's kind of same as the reinvented 2014 version M9s? New internals and hopefully better overall quality? Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Sooo.. wait, is this just a straight marui clone now? the internals seem pretty familiar (Though I admit I havent taken apart a marui in quite some time). I mean its still nice that they finally redseigned their worst gun, but its not too exciting if they were just like "Welp, lets clone marui like everyone else!" Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 So as this was posted in the PM is it genuine? If so about time they sorted out there 1911’s. Hope they re do there commander and officer size ones too Still even not sure they’ll start churning out countless version of it. Link to post Share on other sites
johny_blaze Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 I smell April fools. Hope not though as I want a new commander since my last one went missing (and was rubbish anyway). Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Why would it be any better though? The Marui ones were okay, plastic slide and limited gas. This will still be fairly disappointing performance wise. And I like WE pistols! Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 ^ They switched from a 14mm nozzle to 15mm so recoil should be much, much stronger and crisper than the older version which was a straight up Marui clone (for the slide at least). This one doesn't look like a TM copy to me as the rear hammer assembly is separate (like on a Glock) unlike on TM where the whole sub assembly extends to the entire guide rails. And no mention of mags. Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 I do wonder, is there a market for these? Other than cheaper than all others currently, what could these offer that others don't already offer? And I doubt they can beat the cheapest clones in price. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 what could these offer that others don't already offer? Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Well, I could see these being marketable if they work better. Remember that the average Marui clone like a KJW or Bell can't actually get through a magazine on one fill of gas. If you can get 2 or 3 mags out of one fill like their p38, that would make it the best low cost 1911 out there. So that'd make it very marketable to new players. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Well, since the cylinder is indeed bigger, the slide should cycle faster improving gas efficiency like volante's BBUs. Can't wait to see some performance stats. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 And to be fair, other than the swelling issue if you stored the mags fully gassed up in a warm environment I had no issues with the WE 1911 mags. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 About time they updated them to double stack though isn't it? Single stack 1911s is like WAs back in the Magna days. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 About time they updated them to double stack though isn't it? I suppose thier Siamese 1911 counts as double stack, no? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Ha. OK you got me. Let's see if they can increase mag capacity without doubling the weight of the gun though heh. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunnman Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 It would be nice if they built 1911s that I want, like a modern Commander. Come on WE, make me wet like you always do. Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Still doesn't come powerstroke-able. How hard could it be? Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 You know that power stroking doesn't work on a real 1911a1 right? Seems like a pretty misplaced complaint. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 The slide stop having an angled notch for the plunger to push down, no. But it should still be pushed down by the slide on the farthest end of its cycle unless if you've got one or two recoil buffers on that prevents it from going that far. Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 I haven't handled an original M1911A1 but as far as the slide stop notch goes it's got the same dimensions as just about any real steel 1911. I don't see how power stroking wouldn't work. The notch isn't elongated like most airsoft 1911s I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 You have to look at the back surface where the plunger pushes against. On A1s it's just a flat, perpendicular surface so pressure from the plunger doesn't deflect it downwards. Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 I still don't get it... if pulling back on the slide causing the angle on the front of the notch to push the slide catch down how's that any different than pushing it down with your thumb? Why would it not work? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 That's the whole point of power stroking/slingshot. With a fresh mag in and the follower no longer defeating the spring pressure of the slide stop, pulling on the slide causes the stop to reset. You can't do this on A1s because there is no spring tension pushing the stop downwards. In some cases the notch on the slide itself might be able to push it but for the most part you have to manually push it down. Edit: things that may cause the slide not push the stop down could be from a reversed recoil spring plug, too thick a buffer, too many coils on a recoil spring, very stiff slide stop. Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 So the detente that comes out the front end of the plunger doesn't do anything on an M1911/A1 as opposed to today's 1911's that hold the slide stop down? What's its purpose then? Just friction it in either up or down? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Provide friction so it doesn't just flop around or go up from recoil. Link to post Share on other sites
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