WE All new M1911 series

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Black version :

 

 

 

Silver version :

 

 

 

 

Brand new frame :

 

 

 

Fire control unit :

 

 

 

Full pictures and detail comment link here:

 

http://www.arms-cool.net/forum/thread-170717-1-1.html

 

Test fire and assembling / disassembling video link here : 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RooZ-aXViA0

 

 

[NonEx]

So this is the 2016 version 1911's kind of same as the reinvented 2014 version M9s?

 

New internals and hopefully better overall quality?

[Brigg]

Sooo.. wait, is this just a straight marui clone now? the internals seem pretty familiar (Though I admit I havent taken apart a marui in quite some time). I mean its still nice that they finally redseigned their worst gun, but its not too exciting if they were just like "Welp, lets clone marui like everyone else!"

[BigAl]

So as this was posted in the PM is it genuine?  If so about time they sorted out there 1911’s.  Hope they re do there commander and officer size ones too  Still even not sure they’ll start churning out countless version of it.

[johny_blaze]

I smell April fools. Hope not though as I want a new commander since my last one went missing (and was rubbish anyway).

[Got Wood?]

Why would it be any better though? The Marui ones were okay, plastic slide and limited gas. This will still be fairly disappointing performance wise. And I like WE pistols!

[renegadecow]

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They switched from a 14mm nozzle to 15mm so recoil should be much, much stronger and crisper than the older version which was a straight up Marui clone (for the slide at least).

This one doesn't look like a TM copy to me as the rear hammer assembly is separate (like on a Glock) unlike on TM where the whole sub assembly extends to the entire guide rails. And no mention of mags.

[swatti]

I do wonder, is there a market for these? Other than cheaper than all others currently, what could these offer that others don't already offer?

And I doubt they can beat the cheapest clones in price.

[renegadecow]

what could these offer that others don't already offer?

[Brigg]

Well, I could see these being marketable if they work better. Remember that the average Marui clone like a KJW or Bell can't actually get through a magazine on one fill of gas.

 

If you can get 2 or 3 mags out of one fill like their p38, that would make it the best low cost 1911 out there. So that'd make it very marketable to new players.

[Horsem4n]

Well, since the cylinder is indeed bigger, the slide should cycle faster improving gas efficiency like volante's BBUs.

 

Can't wait to see some performance stats.

[LordElpus]

And to be fair, other than the swelling issue if you stored the mags fully gassed up in a warm environment I had no issues with the WE 1911 mags. 

[hitmanNo2]

About time they updated them to double stack though isn't it?  Single stack 1911s is like WAs back in the Magna days. 

[renegadecow]

About time they updated them to double stack though isn't it?

 

I suppose thier Siamese 1911 counts as double stack, no?

[hitmanNo2]

Ha.  OK you got me.  Let's see if they can increase mag capacity without doubling the weight of the gun though heh.

[Gunnman]

It would be nice if they built 1911s that I want, like a modern Commander. Come on WE, make me wet like you always do.

[CaptCalvin]

Still doesn't come powerstroke-able. How hard could it be?

[Brigg]

You know that power stroking doesn't work on a real 1911a1 right? Seems like a pretty misplaced complaint.

[renegadecow]

The slide stop having an angled notch for the plunger to push down, no. But it should still be pushed down by the slide on the farthest end of its cycle unless if you've got one or two recoil buffers on that prevents it from going that far.

[CaptCalvin]

I haven't handled an original M1911A1 but as far as the slide stop notch goes it's got the same dimensions as just about any real steel 1911. I don't see how power stroking wouldn't work. The notch isn't elongated like most airsoft 1911s I've seen.

[renegadecow]

You have to look at the back surface where the plunger pushes against. On A1s it's just a flat, perpendicular surface so pressure from the plunger doesn't deflect it downwards.

[CaptCalvin]

I still don't get it... if pulling back on the slide causing the angle on the front of the notch to push the slide catch down how's that any different than pushing it down with your thumb? Why would it not work?

[renegadecow]

That's the whole point of power stroking/slingshot. With a fresh mag in and the follower no longer defeating the spring pressure of the slide stop, pulling on the slide causes the stop to reset. You can't do this on A1s because there is no spring tension pushing the stop downwards. In some cases the notch on the slide itself might be able to push it but for the most part you have to manually push it down.

 

Edit: things that may cause the slide not push the stop down could be from a reversed recoil spring plug, too thick a buffer, too many coils on a recoil spring, very stiff slide stop.

[CaptCalvin]

So the detente that comes out the front end of the plunger doesn't do anything on an M1911/A1 as opposed to today's 1911's that hold the slide stop down? What's its purpose then? Just friction it in either up or down?

[renegadecow]

Provide friction so it doesn't just flop around or go up from recoil.