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Ares L1A1 is back - this time it's got wood!


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And probably with the same price tag... hefty, especially if you compare it to what King Arms used to charge for theirs.

Well the KA was light and flimsy.

 

I don't know about the ARES, they were all out of stock and impossible to find last time I was shopping for an FAL. The gearbox will probably be mediocre at best, being an ARES, but that can be remedied.

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ARES always had a good mechbox and QD spring.  Issue isn't those components, issues its the piston and motor.

 

Here are all the issues with the ARES from my experience:

 

- Push down on the foregrip and FPS drops.  The mechbox is misaligned a fraction to the barrel and does not seal air to the airnozzle.

- Alu pencil barrel and pot metal receiver bends too easily under combat condition

- Piston head breaks (clear polycarb is no good)

- Cheap motor overheats and seizes

- Front sight post is not secured and gets knocked around under combat conditions.

- ARES Scope mount is not aligned resulting in crosshair misalignment particularly with ACOGs and Elcans.

 

Thats really about it.  If they fixed the first 2 issues from factory, everything else that fails is acceptable.

 

I still have the original STAR/ARES version.  I fixed the mechbox alignment issue my adding screws to the receiver "shim" the mechbox back into alignment, but still doesn't fix the Alu pencil barrel issue.

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Has anyone else seen the Youtube video where it shows the new Ares L1A1 being around 2" shorter than the old Ares L1A1?

For the amount of money I was going to pay for it... I kind of expected it to be a half decent replica (externally) to the real thing... ie: the correct barrel length...

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Has anyone else seen the Youtube video where it shows the new Ares L1A1 being around 2" shorter than the old Ares L1A1?

You mean this video from Patrol Base?

 

 

They do say it is a pre-production prototype so there is a slim chance it could be full length by the time it reaches production?

 

The vid does cover some other interesting points:-

* The rifle is semi only but a full auto safety is likely to be released later.

* The take down catch on the rear left of the rifle is best disabled or you risk damaging the hop up.

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Aye, that's the one!
Knew it was a shop but couldn't remember who.

As unlikely as it'll be, I certainly hope so.
I've told my local shop to order a wood one for me as soon as they're available and I'm not going to lie... I'd be disappointed if it's the wrong length (considering I'm getting it primarily for display purposes)! 

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There's a comment on that video asking if it's just the barrel that's too short, or if the stock, main body (receiver) and front hand guard, are also too short (it could be just the barrel from the front sight, to the flash hider, that's too short).

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Patrol Base have a photo on their facebook page, sadly not replicated in the video or on their website.

(I hesitate to copy it here, and I cant find it elsewhere on the web but here's a FB link for those who do FB

Clicky Linky to long FB link)

It shows, I believe, a real (deac) L1A1, An Original Star L1A1, A King Arms and the new Ares. All 4 are the same size in pretty much every respect (the wood furniture on the real one does seem larger than the polymer furniture) other than the shorter barrel on the new Ares.

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395FPS , non of the sites I play at allow Semi locked DMR's plus I don't think I should have to downgrade a brand new buy , not as if our FPS rules are new ????

Probably going to be the wrong dimensions ????? FFS Ares ! Get a grip !

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395FPS , non of the sites I play at allow Semi locked DMR's plus I don't think I should have to downgrade a brand new buy , not as if our FPS rules are new ????

Probably going to be the wrong dimensions ????? FFS Ares ! Get a grip !

 

I guess it depends if they've used a QC gearbox or not... Given that they can't even get the dimensions right, I'm not sure!

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I guess it depends if they've used a QC gearbox or not... Given that they can't even get the dimensions right, I'm not sure!

Not holding my breath on that one either , would be nice but haven't seen or heard any mention of it , mores the shame .

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These would seem to be arriving at retailers all over the UK today and, According to the guys at PatrolBase:

"As a heads up the barrel length is 2'' Longer on the release version to match the real weapon!"

 

180 Mid caps and 380 hi caps available.

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