renegadecow Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Because Escort likes HPA? And 134a sucks balls. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Is discombobulating the best word ever? I think it might be. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Because Escort likes HPA? And 134a sucks balls. I know, that's kinda my point, if your GIM sucks balls and there are guns out there which require blowback to realistically replicate but doesn't even have a mag at all, then they seem to be better candidates to HPA. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Probably because Shoei are already familiar with the G43 having previously made a non-firing model. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 You know, it'd be really nice if someone could send a Shoei model gun G43 or MP44 to WE with a note that just said "this + GBB = license to print money" Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Mars Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 It would be just like any other Escort-based HPA recoil gun out there. A macro line coming out somewhere semi-unobtrusive, I'm guessing somewhere near the butt, beyond where your hand will rest. The G43 was I believe normally reloaded via clip, but since this is airsoft it will be a new magazine. I would say that an HPA setup usually also means cheaper magazines but here it won't. As I said before a new magazine for your Shoei MP44 will run you $100 USD a pop. I know because I owned one and I spoke with Tomio Matsumoto of Shoei about spare parts and whatnot. HPA does mean it will have nice, crisp blowback and won't be subject to the cooldown effect seen in GIM guns, though. I am also hoping that maybe someone else will grab one of the models and use it to blueprint a more affordable version. Isn't this actually how we ended up with AEG MP44s? Shoei made their own AEG version which was then cloned/heavily copied by Chinese manufacturers? Someone out there must know. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Possibly... though I think Ultima (who also made MG42s and the MG3) released one in 2008 which matches the timeline a bit better... but I have no idea. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 It would be just like any other Escort-based HPA recoil gun out there. A macro line coming out somewhere semi-unobtrusive, I'm guessing somewhere near the butt, beyond where your hand will rest. The G43 was I believe normally reloaded via clip, but since this is airsoft it will be a new magazine. I would say that an HPA setup usually also means cheaper magazines but here it won't. As I said before a new magazine for your Shoei MP44 will run you $100 USD a pop. I know because I owned one and I spoke with Tomio Matsumoto of Shoei about spare parts and whatnot. HPA does mean it will have nice, crisp blowback and won't be subject to the cooldown effect seen in GIM guns, though. I am also hoping that maybe someone else will grab one of the models and use it to blueprint a more affordable version. Isn't this actually how we ended up with AEG MP44s? Shoei made their own AEG version which was then cloned/heavily copied by Chinese manufacturers? Someone out there must know. IIRC it was an effort spearheaded by a UK based retailer whose owner had a SHOEI MP44 AEG he let AGM take measurements off. Unfortunately, they then ignored most of the things he asked for (such as a stamped steel receiver and a realistic safety lever) and that's what we ended up with. Link to post Share on other sites
Trap Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Would love a G43 or SVT-40 but deffo needs to be something skirmishable for me. Faded Mars... Could you link me up to info on the DIY mag feed for mosin Nagant stuff please. Very interested in that! Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Mars Posted November 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 So very quick update. -Shoei has revised the price up to 210,000 JPY, (just over $1900 USD). -They'll be available next Spring. -They're now actually taking order reservations, if you've been waiting. They included a picture of their old model version with scope, but I don't know yet if they'll be making a compatible and working scope for it. Trap, I sent you a PM with the information you wanted. Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Well then, my apologies my lord. Please accept them in my most sincere manner for saying things I happen to want to say but which you deem to be 'not good points to make'. Rest utterly assured I'll run absolutely everything I want to post through you via PM in future, lest I dare tread upon your personal delicate interpretations of things. :rofl: Bye bye now. I think his issue with your point is that you seem to be undermining the significance of this weapon by comparing its abundance to that of the K98. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 part of the reason for the 250k price of the FG42 was the fact it's a registered transferable that was either imported prior to 68 or registered in the amnesty for veteran bringbacks so us lowly peons without a Type 03 07 or type 10 FFL can own it though. I just want a decent Gas SMLE with a proper straight pull short throw bolt so I can run it with a sub 350fps setup and use it for at least moderate rapid fire. even better if they do a speedloader that fits in the stripper clip guide. spare mags wouldnt even bother me too much coz the SMLE was only issued with like three iirc. they could use a small tank inside the stock easily enough or a gas in bolt system. I want so many WW2-1960 era guns it's untrue. Link to post Share on other sites
dog green 1 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 We sold quite a few pps k98 over the past 2 years to airsofters and reenactors and haven't had any negative feedback. So far they have been the nicest looking and most practical airsoft k98 for the money. The G43 has become a bit of an inigma. This one seems to over priced for what it is. I can't believe with all the other airsoft products that our out there a manufacturer hasn't jumped on this already and produced something for around the £400 mark. The sales to reenactors alone would make it a viable addition to the airsoft arsenal. The G43 itself was intended to be issued to more senior members of a squad for flank protection, being able to put down a greater rate of fire than the k98 Link to post Share on other sites
dog green 1 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 As a side note we were offered the chance to have an AEG G43 made by one of the bigger airsoft manufacturers as long as we could put in a minimum order. No doubt we could have moved the numbers involved if we looked at a worldwide market but it's something we have had to put off for now. Link to post Share on other sites
Trap Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Not sure if you can say but was it G&G? They were toying with the idea a while back. Think I'd still prefer a scoped SVT-40 but I guess the G43 would be a bit cheaper to make. Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Shoei's are so expensive because it's 2-4 guys making everything by hand. G43 will be GIM (well, HPA in magazine), hold 10-20 BBs because it's a sniper weapon, and will be easily convertible to external hose. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Production HPA in mag? Is that an industry first? Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Production HPA in mag? Is that an industry first? Of this design yes. Escort designed, and they are confident it will work well. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 G43 will be GIM (well, HPA in magazine), hold 10-20 BBs because it's a sniper weapon, and will be easily convertible to external hose. HPAIM doesn't sound very plausible. Refilling the mags would be weird, to say the least. External hose from the get go, yeah, that's interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 HPAIM doesn't sound very plausible. Refilling the mags would be weird, to say the least. External hose from the get go, yeah, that's interesting. It will have a port for charging the magazine with a hand bicycle pump haha. Throwback to 80s airsoft. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Not a whole lot of room in that mag for HPA, at best maybe 10-15 rounds worth depending on how hard blowback is but all in all not too bad considering real steel capacity. Mags must be expensive though. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 It will have a port for charging the magazine with a hand bicycle pump haha. Throwback to 80s airsoft. Holy mackerel! Link to post Share on other sites
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