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#1 Wooly_Booly

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 03:34 PM

Airsoft is looking to be pretty good this year.

"In 2015, the relationship between the two companies began to erode after Cybergun allegedly defaulted on royalty payments. By Sig’s calculations, Cybergun owes over $215,000 in back royalty payments.

“Even though the (master license agreement) requires Cybergun to pay royalties quarterly, it has not made a royalty payment to Sig Sauer since October 2015,” the complaint says."

Forgive the long link.

http://www.guns.com/2017/01/27/sig-sauer-alleges-breach-of-contract-infringement-against-air-soft-maker-cybergun/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=588b5bc204d301079e3e0fc6&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
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Posted 27 January 2017 - 04:11 PM

Please let this be the nail in the coffin. Having just won the US Defence bid for handguns they'll have the money to pursue it...


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 04:22 PM

I think the sum of money they are owed is more than enough to chase it. That said, I am perfectly happy to hear that Cybergun is getting a kicking.


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 05:50 PM

In the balls.
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Posted 27 January 2017 - 06:02 PM

I'm liking 2017 already.


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 06:23 PM

wow, thats pretty ballsy of cybergun. Lets hope Sig's lawyers wring them for every penny and then interest.


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 06:40 PM

This pleases me greatly.  *fruitcage* them.


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 06:44 PM

The only thing that has made me smile so far this year.


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Posted 27 January 2017 - 07:19 PM

**GRIN**

That is all.

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 07:30 PM

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch :D



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Posted 27 January 2017 - 07:45 PM

Weird. Cybergun was posting Sig stuff on Facebook just a couple days ago. Not sure what they were expecting.

https://www.facebook.com/cybergun/posts/1449087351769557



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Posted 27 January 2017 - 08:06 PM

Cheeky *fruitcage*ers have got some gall.


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Posted 28 January 2017 - 12:30 AM

Cheeky *fruitcage*ers have got some gall.

 

Dont you mean "gaul" ;)


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Posted 28 January 2017 - 01:28 AM

Entirely side note: Now that the Sig P320 has been adopted by the US Army, and Cybercun is in the *suitcases* with Sig, I wonder who's going to make an inevitable airsoft version....umm...



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Posted 28 January 2017 - 02:13 AM

Entirely side note: Now that the Sig P320 has been adopted by the US Army, and Cybercun is in the *suitcases* with Sig, I wonder who's going to make an inevitable airsoft version....umm...

 

The last paragraph of the article could answer that?

 

"Sig Sauer launched its own line of airsoft rifles and pistols in late 2015, offering full-scale replicas of their most popular line of guns to include the MCX, MPX, P226 and P320 handguns. Showcased at SHOT Show 2017, the line has seen an uptick in interest as more shooters turn to airsoft to augment live fire training, according to Sig reps."

 

Which could also explain why Sig are bringing the case? Why continue to licence the designs when you are making your own airsoft versions?


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Posted 28 January 2017 - 04:30 AM

The only thing is though they article is misinformed. They're making air rifles and pellet rifles, not 6mm airsoft guns. I wouldn't be surprised however if someone else grabs the Sig licenses at this point. With the XM17 just announced I would imagine that they're comping at the bits for a replica.

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 04:33 AM

The last paragraph of the article could answer that?

 

"Sig Sauer launched its own line of airsoft rifles and pistols in late 2015, offering full-scale replicas of their most popular line of guns to include the MCX, MPX, P226 and P320 handguns. Showcased at SHOT Show 2017, the line has seen an uptick in interest as more shooters turn to airsoft to augment live fire training, according to Sig reps."

 

Which could also explain why Sig are bringing the case? Why continue to licence the designs when you are making your own airsoft versions?

Why not?

Make their own production line and make money

earning money of others work without lifting a finger and just recieve money - seem like a good deal.

 

Would soooooooo much hope Sig has teamed up with some competent people so their airsoft guns are topquality

Hoping KSC S7

 

But to be able to drytraining with airsoftguns it would be nice if it mean that you can swap out triggers and triggerpart to be able to have a realistic triggerpull


Edited by Beeingmyself, 28 January 2017 - 04:35 AM.

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 05:53 AM

Would soooooooo much hope Sig has teamed up with some competent people so their airsoft guns are topquality

Hoping KSC S7

I wouldn't quite say competent. They've been making GBBs for decades and they're still using silicone rubber for the piston lid, silicone rubber which gradually gets eaten up by the oil in its very propellant.


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Posted 28 January 2017 - 09:57 AM

As far as I can tell Sig will not be granting a licence to anyone else . They intend to go back to distributing airsoft versions themselves like they did years ago (albeit very few models)

 

I just hope Sig choose a decent OEM ,(maybe VFC) as they used KJW last time . They basically sold a fully marked KJW P226 on their websites .

 

 

In other news Concern Kalashnikov are still pursuing a similar claim against Cybergun dating back to last year  



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Posted 28 January 2017 - 10:00 AM

As far as I can tell Sig will not be granting a licence to anyone else . They intend to go back to distributing airsoft versions themselves like they did years ago (albeit very few models)

 

I just hope Sig choose a decent OEM ,(maybe VFC) as they used KJW last time . They basically sold a fully marked KJW P226 on their websites .

 

 

 

I think that MCX was at the Palco stand, so maybe they're doing the OEM for Sig.


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