renegadecow Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 That tiny GBB Colt .25 for one thing. Can't get any more excited over it. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I think that .25 is going to be insanely popular judging from the reactions I've seen on forums and FB. Even anti WE guys are interested in it. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 You mind telling us about the good airsoft stuff coming up? ^^ Well I mean I don't know of anything secret that's not been published out there in the social media world. For me personally, the carbine version of the Scorpion Evo (which had waaaay better selectors at shot show), the AXTS AR from PTS/KWA (but I get nobody else likes LM4), the MCX that's been mentioned and who knows maybe some stuff TM has teased might actually get released? Krytac have talked about a Fostech 12 in development which 'will beat the TM system' (so they say). But I imagine most folks know about all that stuff and lots more, my interests are very... specific. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 In response to your comment, I would just like to know what unusual stuff you fondled and drooled over at the show. There's always obscure stuff that no one talks about. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 In response to your comment, I would just like to know what unusual stuff you fondled and drooled over at the show. There's always obscure stuff that no one talks about. If you mean just airsoft, I genuinely don't know of anything that hasn't been widely publicised, there wasn't much to see in general really and if I'm even more honest there was a lot of it I didn't check out, though that applied to lots of other things because it's massive and there's only so many hours in the day. More and more companies aren't even bothering with booths in the main show because the NSSF that runs it are getting more and more douche'y as the years go by, milking the exhibitors for every penny they've got and generally making shockingly bad decisions about who actually gets booth space. FirstSpear, Q, Beyond Clothing, Matbock and Tac tailor (just the ones I know of, no doubt there's more) all rented suites in the connected hotels instead of having conventional boothes. Krytac had a press event with their stuff at one of the Vegas machine-gun rental places, FirstSpear and Sig Sauer have their own range days seperate to the official one (plus there's another one that other gun companies attend I haven't been to, for a total of 3). The most interesting airsoft items for me personally were the Carbine EVO and the AXTS gun by PTS as mentioned. The overall most interesting info was what I extracted about the Crye G4 uniforms, but they weren't on display. Gun wise it's the old school stuff I find most enjoyable these days, nothing super tacticool. I won't go in to gear because that's going a bit far OT for this thread, but everything I really liked I photographed and wrote about on my facebook page; just that nobody goes on there, ha. Link to post Share on other sites
D.O.C. Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Wanna post a link to your FB page? ..I'm interested ;-) Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Right there in my signature block mate, been there for years. ;) Link to post Share on other sites
D.O.C. Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Ah ok..I'm browsing mobile, so no signatures for me but it's just a click.. edit: ..interesting stuff Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Cybergun being sued into oblivion for copyright infringement (technically breach of contract.) This is like the definition of poetic justice. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Ah ok..I'm browsing mobile, so no signatures for me but it's just a click.. edit: ..interesting stuff Fair one, I rarely come on here on my phone I have to say, whereas that's probably the norm for most now. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 So what does this mean for all the KJW P226 and P229 pistols that are out there? I believe the SIG trades were by way of Cybergun? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I wouldn't quite say competent. They've been making GBBs for decades and they're still using silicone rubber for the piston lid, silicone rubber which gradually gets eaten up by the oil in its very propellant. And just two days after saying this I'm greeted yet again by this age old problem. Rubber crumbled and accumulated behind the nozzle causing out of battery for this hardly used M93R. Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 One unmentioned potential problem with this is it could dissuade companies from licensing deals with airsoft manufacturers. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I think most firearm companies don't care all that much, other than perhaps Glock. Cybercun has been spearheading most of the hunt behind unlicensed replicas, if it weren't for them, I'm not sure how many firearms companies can keep up with what's on the airsoft market and more importantly, who's even making them to send a letter to. There are so many aliases floating around for unlicensed replicas, your concern might be the worst case scenario, but the best case scenario could go back to the days where things aren't licensed and people just make whatever replica they want under weird names. Either way, it doesn't seem like any legal efforts could stop us from getting accurate replicas with trademarks. Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I doubt they would be bothered much. There's enough business and money to be made by doing what they do, than spending a huge amount more to start developing toys as well. I would imagine they consider it free advertising for the brand Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to post Share on other sites
GI0VANNI Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I think you got it absolutely right. Even with the most popular RSguns when you go the google path usually find plenty of airsoft info bafore you get to the RS. Aditionaly in most of the branches the military or law enforcers do not get to train as much (and use) as much their "weapon systems" as players do so the airsoft community is really the biggest show that RS manufacturers can get for their products, even when RS shooters usually look us over the shoulder (even I use to think really different about my RS and airsoft skills and toys too). Link to post Share on other sites
Probotector Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Take that Cybersuck. Good news indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Want to bet they'll rather buy legislation to make unlicensed RIFs illegal to import and possess than go quietly into the night? That's the 'exit strategy' I would bank for if I had as toxic relationship with my market as those fartboxes... Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Not sure how to feel about this since cyberscum seemed to be my only possible source for a gun i fell in love with. Iv had the nbb they make of it the ksc version is both insanely over priced and discontinued as well as pants once its pre s7. Cybergun were/are meant to be bringing out a new one and iv got two mags for the nbb so bugger especially since anyone else picking up the license isn't likely to do more than rebrand the cyberscum existing nbb though it may mean i cab actually get a replacement that isn't inn4.5 since the CG 6mm ones seem to have vanished in the uk. Sig pro 2022 if anyone is intwrested Link to post Share on other sites
Guges Mk3 Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 BTW...the head of the the SIG Pellet and Airsoft Products is a Former Palco/Cybergun C level Officer. Fortunately it's not the officer that is currently running US Operations into the ground... And they are getting sued by the Kalashnikov Compact too http://en.news-original.ru/kalashnikov-sued-the-french-manufacturer-of-copies-of-the-ak-47.html http://freenews-en.tk/2016/07/21/kalashnikov-sued-the-french-manufacturer-of-copies-of-ak-47/ Link to post Share on other sites
CZFan Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 You know you've hit bottom when Kalashnikov sues your toys (and theres 100s of factories making real copies of said with no license nor lawsuit) Link to post Share on other sites
Gunnman Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 It's funny to see the same game Cybergun played, being played on them. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 The problem is that Cybergun "signed a contract".. Those others are just doing it because they can. There is really no "legal" recourse for Kalasnikov against the factories making real steel in those other countries. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunnman Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Not that Kalashnikov is any better, like going after the grandson and daughter of the man your company is named after. Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Not that Kalashnikov is any better, like going after the grandson and daughter of the man your company is named after. breaking news big corporations are scum more at 11. Link to post Share on other sites
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