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[renegadecow]

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2017/06/02/2003671763

 

In a freaky turn of events, I was supposed to be working for this guy today! Late last year I met with the guy (really cool dude too) in a surprise bid to sell him the designs for my China Lake. He wanted it but required that I be in Taiwan for a while to polish up the production prototype as well as a potential work contract afterwards. But I haven't gotten to getting my passport ready yet (hell, my *suitcasey* government couldn't even provide me my driver's license and it's been five months now!) so I've practically lost all interest for the endeavor. Now this happens. Bit of a douche move for the Criminal Investigation Bureau though. It's putting something well outside its intended purpose and justifying how it suddenly becomes lethal. Like the potential lethality of dropping a PC on someones head from atop a building.

[Snoop-Uk]

Interesting as this is still on pre orders status for a number of companies could this see an end to gas sniper rifles

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[renegadecow]

Not just gas sniper rifles. The limit is supposedly 20J. If you stick 2k psi in an APS shell and load a rubber slug it's been proven to deliver 25J+.

[Got Wood?]

Reads like a bit of a with hunt to me

[Spudgun]

I'll bet the Airsoft gun banners will be all over this like a rash over here!

[Horsem4n]

Supposedly, I've been reading on Facebook, that there's an update somewhere that his appeal went through, he was able to have the gun tested according to the law (and not the way this judge thought it should be tested) and the ruling was overturned and he was released free of charges.

I'm still looking for that update though. Maybe it wasn't printed in English yet.

[tquilha]

Who in their right mind would hook an airsoft gun up to a 22 Kg air bottle??

[hitmanNo2]

A *rickroll* trying to ruin everyone's fun.

[renegadecow]

That's 22kg/cm gas I believe. Some kind of refrigerant doing twice the pressure of green gas or half of CO2.

[Katotaka]

Not just gas sniper rifles. The limit is supposedly 20J. If you stick 2k psi in an APS shell and load a rubber slug it's been proven to deliver 25J+.

 

No surprise, the TW police modded an CAM870 and stuck a real 12ga in it, fires and then banned the model.

[NonEx]

Mweh, what the fu... Yeah ^^ Sounds like the APS CAM870 story kind of...

 

Green Gas = ~12KG = 170 PSI

Guarder power Up Gas = ~16KG = 225 PSI

News report = ~22KG = 312 PSI

CO2 = ~60KG = 850 PSI

 

 

[Gunnman]

This whole story makes me want to get one of these:

 

[3vi1-D4n]

Makes no sense, but looks like a political move by his enemies.

[Katotaka]

Makes no sense, but looks like a political move by his enemies.

 

It makes NO sense

 

 

 

Meme says the whole police force in TW operates like meter maids, they need to "solve" certain number of cases like issuing certain number of parking violation tickets in a given time frame, even with no one violating any written laws, as a benchmark of performance.

Edited by Katotaka, 08 June 2017 - 02:20 AM.

[renegadecow]

So G&G's made an official statement on their FB page expressing thanks to concerned people around the world. As of the moment they are still filing for an appeal so any news that it's already been overturned would be speculation or wishful thinking at best.

Edited by renegadecow, 08 June 2017 - 02:31 AM.

[Dimitri MdP]

Not just gas sniper rifles. The limit is supposedly 20J. If you stick 2k psi in an APS shell and load a rubber slug it's been proven to deliver 25J+.

It's not 2K PSI. They used 20KgF/cm²  gas. Some weird thing the Chinese call "yellow gas", and it's even stronger than black gas.

The given 20KgF/cm²  (284PSI) measured at 33ºC means it has more than twice the pressure of what green mags are actually designed for, so using it in the trial test is a *rickroll* move of unprecedented proportions. 

I've praised a million times before the quality of G&G G96 green gas mags (despite hating the platform for the horrendous Tanaka hop and barrel type and the one-piece steel bolt which makes it quite harder to switch the hop unit as you would in a Tanaka or KJW), but never expected it to withstand such pressures in a test. 

If anything, I'm surprised by G&G G96 magazine. And really hope they can overturn such ridiculous ruling.

[renegadecow]

I was referring to the Chinese/Canadian guy on YouTube who stuck 2k psi in his APS (also Taiwan) shells with a hand pump.

[Dimitri MdP]

I was referring to the Chinese/Canadian guy on YouTube who stuck 2k psi in his APS (also Taiwan) shells with a hand pump.

what the flying fruitcage?!!

[renegadecow]

[CZFan]

Well 25Joules is no joke... but it seems like he got shafted

 

There are many industrial gases you can get that are very high pressured. I don't see how this is a GnG problem though. Its like somebody jailing GM ceo because somebody found a chevy that could hit 200mph...... 

 

There is more here we are missing. There is just a general crackdown taking place like in japan back in the day.. This will result in once more, mediocre parts and designs being made. Enjoy toys