blobface Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Likely based on the LCT PP19, Hephaestus has announced that they are working on a PP19-01 Very limited information so far, but will update thread as they reveal more. Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Nice! Link to post Share on other sites
AG1212 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 A step closer to an AS VAL Link to post Share on other sites
Moofrikkintastic Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 If this turns out good I'll throw a sack of money their way. I am somewhat concerned about the magazines though, I remember they did some sort of plastic 7.62 mag for the GHK AK a while back which apparently wasn't great, at least compared to the GHK ones. I haven't seen much about their 9x39 ones for the Groza though, so maybe they've gotten better. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 This would be the first time they "make" a magazine... those other mags were just modification from existing GHK mags, and it's their BB feed tubes that they messed up, I have two of their long AK mags, they worked, but not perfectly, my orange one splits a little bit when it's loaded full, I had to bond them together. The other thing is their Tavor performed poorly compared to any other GHK guns, and this PP-19-01, like the Tarkov, will be internals of their own, so I'll wait patiently for reviews and videos before putting money into this platform. Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitri MdP Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 *fruitcage* YEA. A step closer to an AS VAL WUT? Link to post Share on other sites
DiscoBiscuit Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 A step closer to an AS VAL oh yes, and Vintorez Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Guys, it's not THAT kind of 9mm. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Meh, close enough. I took it that they were just saying that because they're now getting into more "modern" Russian stuff beside AK types by using LCT bodies instead of because they're 9mm guns. Besides, they've already done a OTs-14 9x39mm mag for the GHK x Hephaestus Groza. Link to post Share on other sites
AG1212 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Obviously this isn't related to the VSS ar VAL at all, but them doing more obscure russian small arms means that they're narrowing the list down, which makes me hopeful that we're getting closer to seeing a GBB VAL Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I'd prefer an SR-2M, which would be harder to create as AEG, but it's an interesting gun for a GBB nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites
AG1212 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Well there already being a LCT VAL/VSS makes it way more likely to be picked up by GHK or Hephaestus Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 If they make a VSS/AS VAL I hope they don't use an AEG shell because they're all misshapen to accommodate a gearbox. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 If they make a VSS/AS VAL I hope they don't use an AEG shell because they're all misshapen to accommodate a gearbox.Sadly they have been doing it for AKs.. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 A lot less noticeable on AKs though. Link to post Share on other sites
Atsalakotos Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 If I am not mistaken the King Arms VSS is almost 1:1 to the real one.. It doesnt have that ugly hump the LCT ones have for the battery space.. But yeah thats off topic even if we all wish it was a 9x39 and not a 9x19 A PP-19 is a breath of fresh air i guess, I always liked the idea of an SMG AK but stopped being interested in AEGs a long time ago.. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Kings Arms is better but still far off. The bore axis on the real one is so low that the top of the trigger guard should be right around level with the bottom of the suppressor. Sticking with a version 3 gearbox will never get you those dimensions even with Kings Arms making the functional bore higher on the suppressor. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 Looks like a 2018 Q3/Q4 release for this. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Slipped to Q1/2 2019. I'm guessing the latter if it makes either. Link to post Share on other sites
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