LeMongelo Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 it is a BELGIAN gun ! not a british <{POST_SNAPBACK}> L1A1's are made in the UK...Enfield Royal Small Arms Factory Link to post Share on other sites
fnfr3ger Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 that is true Link to post Share on other sites
sturgis Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 L1A1's are made in the UK...Enfield Royal Small Arms Factory <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes, under licensefrom FN... just like,US Army isseud M16s are now beeing build by FN, doesn't make the M16 a Belgian Weapon... plus it's not an King Arms L1A1 conversion kit, it's a King Arms FAL conversion kit... so nah it looks good though ! wouldn't mind having one Link to post Share on other sites
LeMongelo Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 yes, under licensefrom FN... just like,US Army isseud M16s are now beeing build by FN, doesn't make the M16 a Belgian Weapon... plus it's not an King Arms L1A1 conversion kit, it's a King Arms FAL conversion kit... so nah it looks good though ! wouldn't mind having one <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know it's not a replica of the L1A1...see my other posts. In my opinion, L1A1's are unique to the UK...whatever, they look the same, small details, no one cares. By the way FN A4's are still made in North America (Columbia SC) Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Marley Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 yes, under licensefrom FN... just like,US Army isseud M16s are now beeing build by FN, doesn't make the M16 a Belgian Weapon... plus it's not an King Arms L1A1 conversion kit, it's a King Arms FAL conversion kit... so nah it looks good though ! wouldn't mind having one <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah but, unlike your M16s there was a fairly big difference between the actual FAL and the L1A1. Unlike the FAL, which was designed an built on the metric system, the L1A1 was built on the imperial system, meaning that most of the rifle was incompatible with the equivilent Belgian model. But anyway, its not an L1A1, so lets not dwell on that. Link to post Share on other sites
sturgis Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Ah but, unlike your M16s there was a fairly big difference between the actual FAL and the L1A1. Unlike the FAL, which was designed an built on the metric system, the L1A1 was built on the imperial system, meaning that most of the rifle was incompatible with the equivilent Belgian model. But anyway, its not an L1A1, so lets not dwell on that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> really, hmm didn't know that lemongelo, i realise that they are manufactered in the US by FN USA, that was kinda my point under license and all... Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Ah but, unlike your M16s there was a fairly big difference between the actual FAL and the L1A1. Unlike the FAL, which was designed an built on the metric system, the L1A1 was built on the imperial system, meaning that most of the rifle was incompatible with the equivilent Belgian model. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And thus no real L1A1 parts will be able to be used on the Airsoft FAL! Link to post Share on other sites
Ubar Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 In my opinion, L1A1's are unique to the UK...whatever <{POST_SNAPBACK}> your opinion is wrong the aussies and kiwis also used L1s, and I believe the canadian version was possibly the same (under different designations) Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 plus it's not an King Arms L1A1 conversion kit, it's a King Arms FAL conversion kit... so nah Two points: - It's not an L1A1, granted, but it'll do. Just like the way an m4 is a "diemaco" to me. Lets pretend -It's a British weapon as much as its an aussi and kiwi one. The Fn m249 is an American weapon wouldn't you say? Even though it was made in belgium. And if you want to say that the FN MAG L7A1 Gimpy isn't British, you've got Doc Newstead to deal with... Link to post Share on other sites
fnfr3ger Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 it was designed , tested and made in belgium ! and the the commonwealth wanted to have their own version and we designed it and they made some more changes and called it an l1 and in the beginning we made the l1 for them and later on they got a licence to make it Edit : but the commonwealth adopted it earlier the the belgian armed forces Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Your point being? Yes Belgium designed and made the gun, i never said they didn't. However it was sued in British service (the L1A1 that is) and so all i really care about We use the HK Mp5 series as well on occasion. I'd still call them Brit guns, as much as they are German. Link to post Share on other sites
fnfr3ger Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 i didn't want to make a point , all i wanted was to clarify things Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 hehe thats quite allright But yeah, you can claim the FN FAL and the waffle as national inventions. Link to post Share on other sites
fnfr3ger Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 and don't forget the frie ( or chips to the english ) Edit : also the fn mag (m240) Link to post Share on other sites
Forze Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 The waffle is a greek invention from the 1300s just to clarify Link to post Share on other sites
fnfr3ger Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 The waffle is a greek invention from the 1300s just to clarify <{POST_SNAPBACK}> never knew that thx for the info Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Still the "Belgian waffle" is Belgian and all i remember about Brugge. Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 I believe the canadian version was possibly the same (under different designations) Not sure - but I think the Canadian version was also an imperial-measurement based variation related to the L1A1 but not the same as - plus we also had the heavy-barrelled, light-support version which the Brits didn't. In fact: "Belgium was not the the first country to adopt their own rifle in 1956. Probably the first one was Canada, adopting their slightly modified version of FAL as C1 in 1955. Canadians set to produce C1 and heavy barreled C2 squad automatic rifles at their own Canadian Arsenal factory. Britain followed the suit and adopted the FAL in 1957 as an L1A1 SLR (Self-loading rifle), often issued with 4X SUIT optical scopes." http://world.guns.ru/assault/as24f-e.htm Link to post Share on other sites
fnfr3ger Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 in my earlier post (number 60) i already mentioned it lol Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Marley Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 But surely, the FAL, CAL, FNC, Minimi, MAG, P90 and Five seveN cant be Belgian because Belgium dosent exist! Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Over? Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, out. Link to post Share on other sites
fnfr3ger Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 wtf ?? who makes up this **** ? we are a country ! Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted August 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Not according to the internet, and the internet is never wrong Link to post Share on other sites
fnfr3ger Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 lol my passport says otherwise nationality : Belgian/Belg/belge (or something like that) Link to post Share on other sites
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