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Honestly they are still a solid rifle, version 1 and 2 at least and the waffle mags. The newer version 3 and the stanag mags I don't know about but I'd say they are also probably great as well, I don't think they are that different.
But I just don't use mine any more! I had mine TDC moded, for the cradle bolt and parts and then never used it more than a couple of times but it's still a great gun. Mags still solid with no leaks. Shoots pretty well, though I havnt range tested it in a while.
I moved on to WE and now GHK, both are much more customisable and able to accept real/airsoft parts more readily, you can add aftermarket rails etc to a KJW but its that little bit more difficult.
I think the finish of the KJW is more like an airsoft gun, where as more recent M4 GBBr replicas are getting better finishes, materials, after market support etc.
It is not to say that the KJW is defunct, it's still solid, it still runs well and is gas efficient, it kicks less than some GBBrs but more than any AEG. I still like mine, it has a special place in my heart as my first successful jaunt into GBBr, though I would sell if anyone wanted it just because I don't use it.
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Yes Devilhunter! Also interested! Really good work. Any skirmish reports on its use/reliability etc?
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Yeah that was a thought that crossed my mind.
Had an issue today while working in my latest WE M4, the front sight id purchased (KAC Flip up type for an older SR16) did not fit... The roll pin holes were too close together, eg the holes did not align with the barrel holes.
Is this an AEG vs RS spec issue?
Any brands that will fit WE spec barrels? RS again?
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That's pricey for the RS, I'm not happy spending 130 quid, better start saving. Will look at other options, eBay/import.
Anyone modded a replica version?
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Tried a search and couldn't find a helpful or definitive answer:
Which ready mag systems will fit a WE M4/4168?
I know a RS one will fit but I'm after a replica (G&P or ICS etc) as I'm not sure I can source an RS version in UK (please feel free to correct me on this!)
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Very nice detailed review. I picked one of these up when they first came out but I haven't had the chance to properly open her up.
A clean of trigger mech and internals helped but still very mushy semi auto response and I also got full auto on occasion when in semi which I assumed was due to problems with the seer tolerances.
Will now open if up again and try the mod you've suggested.
Also the hopup mod as it does have issues with adjustments.
Just as an extra I have not seen any extra mags for this but the SMG-8 mags fit but require a minor mod to the serrations which interact with the mag catch. A small amount of fileing is all that's needed.
Look forward to your future observations. And will report back with how my own mods go!
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If your interested and I recall someone, possibly you, asking about a mk12 SPR outer barrel (dytac version) I have one or sale.
(Sorry for the shameless plug guys)
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Thanks for your views on the WE, glad others are talking about it! I'm also after the collapsible stock model, gonna wait for that till I buy but always good to hear how it performs. Let us know how you get on with shooting!
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There's a Facebook group?
To be honest I've gone over to using WE GBBr's and haven't skirmished the kjw for a long while, though I've lent it out and ppl have been impressed.
I did test it today on the new WE Nuprol 3.0 and... Shock horror, one of my mags had a little leak! Quick tweak with Allen key seemed to solve it but I should really service the mags, they've been stored so long.
As for European KJW, owners (UK) I don't personally think I need stanag mags. And I have never seen another KJW M4 over here, though I know they are about. Demand in UK will be very low I'm afraid.
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Nice review Chef, thanks for reposting it, keep your updates flowing. I always prefer a succinct and practical review like yours to ones that go on with themselves.
hopefully the good turn out of the K will transcribe over to the A3 version (or whatever the folding stock variant is known as these days) when it's released.
Most initial reviews of the apache seem very positive, wish I'd waited rather than picking up the WE/New wave super rice 7 (etc) MP7, as although it's well made externally it has issues and I'm not satisfied I could skirmish it at the moment as you have with the Mp5k. Time will tell, but once I pick up a WE mp5a3 I'm certain I'll find the mp7 as a redundant purchase.
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Aznriptide859, would you recommend going for a kydex holster made for a G21 (rather than 17) to fit airsoft glock frames? Specifically WE G17?
I have had issues with g17's fitting RS safarilands in the past but nothing a heat gun won't fix. Kydex will likely be different I suspect.
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I have a dytac 16" outer barrel, specifically SPR, made for the sopmod/socom. Was thinking about doing another build with it, but can't seem to get around to it. It's yours if you want it (not for free of course
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That's an unexpected treat. Didn't personally hear anything about this!? However not really gonna spend $47 a mag for the look when I have 8 fully working mags already. Other Ppl will though!
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Training day today using the 416 and plenty of testing for the ORGA barrel.
Put around 800 rounds through her today. Running at around 345 fps with 0.2g but using 0.3g blaster devils.
I will start by echoing charle 6, the hopup is pain to adjust! As I'm sure regular users know. Had it roughly set but didn't get a real chance to sit and carefully adjust it at distance.
I started the day with the 6.23 WB and a 75o maple leaf bucking. Worked quite well but there was some inconsistency. Occasionally there would be 2-3 rounds with zero hopup? Not sure why.
But overall the accuracy was useable and at the same 50m ish mark, just lacked consistency.
Accuracy at up to 40m was impressive. Nice straight flight path, decent accuracy at this distance.
After lunch I slapped in the 80o maple leaf bucking. This gave over hop on the setting the 75 had been on. Adjusted it down and the range went to 55 meters accuracy (man sized hits more often than not I'd say 6 out of 10 with a few flyers).
Range was measured using paceing so cannot give a very exact distance but fairly happy with the 55m, actual flight of the bb went out to 60+ meters (Around 65), again paced out, but accuracy was diminished, 3 out of 10 I'd say but achievable, I think also a few shots went a touch further but cannot positively confirm.
I feel the consistency needs improving, I'm happy with the resuls as a whole but would like to tighten the accuracy. I wasn't able to do any grouping tests using paper targets so i cant give any results on this. Tests done shooting people or people width trees
The ORGA doesnt give a massive improvement, slight increase in range, 3-5meters perhaps but that can give the edge. If anything it's slightly more inconsistent But it's max range has increased.
I plan to try improve consistency with the hopup bucking and nub. Got a few ideas to try, R-hop etc.
the ORGA barrel does have a MASSIVE hopup window and I think this can be exploited to give better results. The maple leaf bucking has about 2mm of space either side of the contact patch in the hopup window which is probably introducing the inconsistency to shots, if I can find a better hopup rubber/r-hop to use the larger window it should hopefully improve bb seating (consistency) in the bucking and better contact giving better hop.
Will keep you up to date as I go.
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Have been experimenting with an ORGA Magnus wide bore barrel (6.23mm, 363mm length) in my WE 416, along with a maple leaf 75o bucking and so far I'm quite impressed with the results.
As with any new bucking there was some bedding in time and the first 150ish rounds had the occasional flyer and round hooking left or right, but it really seems to have bedded in well now and works consistently.
I have yet to put it on an exactly measured range to test overall accuracy but having played with it in a woodland milsim game I came away smiling after reaching out to 50-60 metres accurately.
Will be able to measure the distance on the 18th and test the setup further, if I have access to a video camera better than my iPhone ill grab some footage.
I have an 80o maple leaf I'd like to try out but I'm not sure if it would improve things any, it may even be worse.
I'm currently running 0.3g blaster devils through her, on propane at 350 fps (w/ 0.2s).
1 thing I did find was that the GBBr does not like the rain. A lot of gas vent, and the hopup was affected, but other than that extremely pleased thus far.
Edit: wanted to mention aswell I've just finished (easily) fitting an RATECH magic pin on the 416 and it has made the GBBr feel completely rock solid. An excellent, easy, upgrade and big thanks to Iain @milspec solutions for letting me know as soon as they were in stock and dispatching it to me in quick time!
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Samoon replied to my email telling me they are 6.04.
I *think* somebody mentioned earlier it takes AEG barrels. I'll look into trying to source an orga magnus barrel in the UK. Cheers!
Buy direct from theorga online shop. good service and fast hassle free shiping, even missed import duty.
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If it takes AEG barrels try ORGA 6.23 wide bore
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Hi all, picked up a 416 recently and really enjoying it thus far! About 300 rds through, no problems as yet!
Range is pretty decent, getting 50m good accuracy with .28s and the bb's are carrying on a bit more after that, max range maybe 60m. Looking at a few different inner barrel setups and hopup combos to try maximise the range.
Trying to get a hold of a REAPS bucking. Any ideas where it's in stock? Any UK or european stockists?
Managed to buy a maple leaf bucking, picked up the 75 and 80o versions, are these any good?
If I can score 4 more mags should be able to give it a good testing over a weekend event, will be using .3s at around 350 fps (350 w/.2s) .
J.
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Thanks for the continuing updates on these! Very interested in the products. Great story about the yellow patch.
Hopefully we will see a UK release for these! And not a watered down version to placate the whiny Health and safety types who are worried about everything! I'm sure there are ppl on these very forums who would have plenty to say about this awesome product and how it'll never see release, it's as if they don't want it and they can only see problems with it! Where's the optimism gone? Anyways I'm also sure there is a large silent majority who can't wait for this!
but I'm hopeful it'll come! The English manual is certainly a good sign.
Cheers again, more videos of it in action!
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Fire support do, don't know if it is currently 'in' stock though.
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Before the ARS, etc, versions where available I dremeled a gbbr ASAP to fit. No dramas, just don't take off too much.
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Arne71, my suggestion to your mate is to leave the beautiful recce rifle as it is and if they must have a diemaco then sell the much more expensive recce and use the money to buy a sopmod/socom which will be 100 times easier to convert. The rails on recces are notoriously hard to get off.
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Popped fuses, rather than mechanical is probably a crossed wiring problem. I popped 3 prommy fuses before I figured my wiring problem out. Then I cut the fuse out and straight wired it!
It could be mechanical, but if the stock tube was bent, and your tech had no Idea what they were doing its probably wiring.
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Did you end up using propane? If so how did it run?