Inq Eisenhorn
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The best UK price is currently at that place we love to hate, yep, you got it, Special Airsoft Supplies.....nah, just kidding, best price is at the other place we love to hate.....Fire-Support.
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I would be willing to pay for someone to do those modifications, but the trouble is, not one has had experience with the Bolt near me yet. Meh, it seems I`ll just take the G&G...
Or if you want a Recoil AEG, what about the PTS RM4 ERG.....it has the recoil system and stops firing on the last round due to the magazines, but is also compatible (without an adaptor) with standard AEG magazines......has a quick change spring system so you can modify your FPS as you want it.....the cost is comparible to a Top Tech Gen3 AEG.
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Redwolf UK Chef , more arriving in the new week
#sigh#....another trip to the Scarlet Wolverine, another round of marital abuse....my life is becoming so predictable....
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I agree with dropping the 100 post block.
For a start, do you all honestly believe there is some secret barrier to being a member of Armies as well as Zero In?!? I'd imagine that 80% of Armies UK members also frequent Zero In....I think the thing that keeps Armies "honest" is the fact that it is an international site, unlike Z-in.
Its not just the sales section of Armies that's dead, everything here just seems stale compared to back in the day.....and let's not even mention the void that is GasGunsinfo.....
Zero In, while it has many hang ups, is a lively and vibrant place....so they must be doing something right!! Armies can dwell on this elitist attitude that it's somehow a "better" place to be, but.....and maybe I'm the only one that thinks it, this forum is running the risk of becoming irrelevant.
Just remember, those young "scrotes" and underage nuisances are the future of the hobby....whether we like it or not, Armies needs to attract those kids and help mature them within the hobby rather than take an aloof down the nose stance and stagnate.
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A&K are back in stock at Taiwangun.com with some spare A&K PTW mags.
Are you going to buy one?
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It's scaremongering, Milspecsolutions is openly selling them in the UK for £360. Just contact Iain to sort you out.
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I pretty much agree with everything NonEx states. I picked up a black version, even though I ordered Tan.....oh well.
I don't think that WE has significantly raised their game on this product, and while nothing to do with the gun itself, the poor advertising and associated controversy of this guns existence (at least in the UK) has left me slightly cold.
I have no intention of skirmishing this rifle, so things like accuracy / gas economy are of little real importance. As a collection piece it's OK for the price. I will always give WE credit for making guns that other producers seem to avoid, I wish they would increase quality and accuracy of the replication, even if this takes the price per unit higher.
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....but sometimes, getting your pants pulled down is for the best...
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I'm going to apologise for this long post. The quick answer is, I don't know. The long answer is, I think the DTW barrel thread is real spec. My reason: For some obscure reason, I swapped out my WE GBBR CQBR Delta ring and put it on my DTW. I then realised I wanted to keep the D ring on my WE but didn't want to take it off the DTW. I couldn't find anyone who could provide a spare WE D-ring......so, I took the plunge and bought a real steel D-ring which I fitted to my WE with no problems.Question,
DTW, CTW, PTW barrel nuts.
Are they RS spec?
Thanks
There you go.
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I read the DTWs have a -14ACW flash hider, if the threads were AEG compatible too, that would be awesome and another hit to my willpower
[recites mantra]
Standard AEG CCW Flash hiders work on a DTW. Saying that, standard AEG CW flash hiders seem to work on PTW barrels
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Im keeping an eye on them and see if they are reliable enough... im getting tired to wait for the Airsoft systems M4 ¬_¬
Thanks for the info insider
You're still waiting for that vaporware???
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If it has same instant trigger response, quick fps adjustment without tools and stopping firing on empty mag, I'm buying 5 of these.
No, just buy one, you can actually use full auto to your hearts content.....kinda like a real rifle, and you can use it in moist weather conditions as well.....Seriously however, obviously the features you're talking about are important to you, so perhaps the TW platform is the correct choice for you, and any inherent issues with ownership are justified by the addition of those features.....
thats great!... i wish retailers over here could do similar.
sadly unless your getting mates rates.... once you have tested your model and walk out the door... all warranty is lost.
even if the manufacturers ofter a warranty... the retailers here don't give a toss... as they will blame you for the damage.
but out side of the g&g models on warranty, i was referring to the difference between repairing an aeg, and repairing a DTW, is not as extreme as some might make out.
http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=570_572&products_id=16359
i guess more so for the mechanical parts over the electrical... which can't really be compared.
i suppose I should read up on possible issues my DTW might incur.
then again.... I'm a "if its not broken don't fix it" type of guy... so guess will face those hurdles if or when they arise.
Yes you will, and at that point you'll be faced with a significant choice, do I repair the part using a standard DTW part, or (depending on why it failed in the first place) do I upgrade and use a higher quality Systema part, hence how and why the cost of ownership spirals.
With regards to your assertion regarding the cost of repairing an AEG vs a DTW, I think Baddbaz has illustrated the differences. However, you also have to take into account geographics. Costs and availablility might be a minor consideration in Hong Kong, in the UK it's not. I'm UK based, so my experiences are based on that fact.
You guys need to understand that I'm not knocking TW's, however, in this review section, people have a right to know or see real user feedback. I understand that your experience (thus far) may be super, and I'm not trying to take that away from you, however, potential buyers need to see that there is another side to the story, which isn't so bright.
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no... i don't see TW as any more prone to failure then a AEG. if not alot less than.
GBBR yes... is high maintenance and high costs.... and i own nothing larger than a KC-02,
but have seen many of my friends get into GBBR's only to give up on them later to return to AEG's
I now actually see TW are now better than AEG's.... and i've yet to see a TW fail in any way shape or form.
where as i've busted plenty of aeg pistons and gears over the years.
although my DTW is still only a few months old and half a dozen outings... i have no issues to complain about.
only thing thats caught me out as i'm so used to AEG's is the stoppage on a empty mag makes me think somethings wrong... when its only a empty mag... lol.
but i will get used to that with time.
and so now with the new low pricing of the DTW's.... TW FTW... in my book.
First up, do some research on those points, and secondly, think about the bigger picture. I'm not talking about GBBR because they are made for a different type of player, who understands the value and need to constantly maintain a rifle for use. I'm really comparing AEG and TW, and specifically for airsoft game play. Now, I know of one guy (a player friend of mine) who had his DTW for less than an hour, only to see it fail to fire and the electronics not function.....I saw this with my own eyes. The reports about CTW's spending more time in repair than out on the field is legendary....and I'm not going to discuss PTW's because quite frankly, from a financial perspective they almost certainly rule themselves out for the common player.
Now, should your standard AEG fail, it will likely cost you pennies to get it running again....it's as simple as that. It's not a financial killer, it's a bump in the road. If your TW goes down, you need to start thinking about the cost of repair, and the cost of parts. And just to warn you, it's savage!! Paying those repair costs once will make your butt hole twitch, now bear in mind, with constant usage, you may need to tap into those repair costs again in the future.....
I liken TW's to expensive fast cars, in many cases people could afford to buy them, but it's not the initial purchase that kills, it's the upkeep......TW's are exactly the same. In the UK £320 buys you the cheapest DTW, and that's fine....but keeping that baby in the field, in play....well, now you need the healthy bank account.
And that's the whole premise of my comments. When I go to a game, I want to just play airsoft. I know that equipment can fail, and I deal with that.....but running something like a G&G just takes so much pain out of playing airsoft and running equipment that it overshadows any perceived benefit of having a TW in the field.
My final note: I think TW are uber cool. When they work, they are lovely. The final development that will make these guns supreme over other options (again, not counting GBBR here!) is when parts are easier to obtain and about 50% - 60% cheaper. That reduction in price will counter the relative fragility of the platform (For example ECU's and rain don't seem to match).....and make them viable for a lot of players.
In my opinion, at the moment, for about 89% of players, TW's are simply not viable or advisable as a airsoft gaming tool.
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Well, the fact that nobody has linked any actual airsoft product kinda proves my point.
OK, if you want a better product for airsoft here's a quick candidate: G&G COMBAT MACHINE.
It's cheaper, highly upgradeable, robust and with an immense parts availability both from G&G and after market it's 100% easier to maintain.
Doesn't have any gimmicky features that are prone to failure anyway, but in place of quick switch out fps, and cease fire on last round it offers game after game of full auto fire. A worthwhile trade off....
Happy now?
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Yeah but not being 1:1 size (in most cases) means being out by mm....only those who seriously know their guns ever really notice those kinds of differences....to the average Joe, people like me who have never, and probably will never, handled a real M4 those differences in dimension are so irrelavant it's not even worth mentioning.
I recently did some quick measurements of my Inokatsu SOPMOD M4 against my AGM GBBR M4, and seriously, there were 0.5mm differences in some areas, >5mm differences in others, seriously. This big hard on us airsofters have (and pay for) to get our guns 1:1 is a lot of money for very little real gain.
I can understand it in the US where the guys can fit real steel parts like upper receivers and the such, but in the UK, AEG sizes are just fine (IMHO).
It will be interesting to see how the new G&G stuff matches up to the various TW products out there.....
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But in fairness to Stan-O, he's talking about an 'unmdified' product, straight out of the box. Adding and ASCU etc is all modification work that needs to be done to make the gun do (possibly) what a TW can do.
That said, given the relatively inexpensive modifications that you have to make to get the AEG up to TW standard, and there after have a very robust playing platform, I think the benefits of making that effort outweighs any percieved benefits of what a TW gives you out of the box.
And I think Baddbaz is correct, you are literally buying a PTW in installments. You don't have to, you can replace parts that break with DTW parts, but what happens when the basic DTW parts are not great, say the hop unit for instance....well, you don't have much choice, you can either buy a CTW part or go all out and get a PTW part....I ended up buying the PTW part (Hop unit, outer barrel, inner barrel, sight post, fake gas block, etc etc) and it was half again the cost of the basic gun!!
Where I disagree with Baddbaz is in the point that the TW is designed to be a training weapon. I don't think it is....again, it's too fragile to be a serious training aid. More to the point, it doesn't mimick enough of what a real rifle does to make it a serious training aid? So it stops firing on last shot, but does it imitate follow up shot accuracy due to recoil on full auto (apart from it doesn't like full auto!)? does it simulate charging handle usage? or the function of forward assist? all these things which you would expect a training weapon to offer. The answer is no. As a training weapon even a recoil gun is more useful.....GBBR being the most realistic training option available (IMHO).
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I dare you to find the equivalent airsoft rifle with the same instant trigger response, quick fps adjustment (without any tools), stop firing on empty mag and the fps consistency OOB below the DTW/A&K TW/Airo TW price.
Maybe some of these are not important to you, but saying that all these features can be found for less is bs.
And since I sense where you're going to go -- let's include the cost of magazines and let's focus on the fps consistency. I've been out of the GBBR world for a while now, but last time I checked there was only one affordable gas platform delivering decent fps consistency -- gen1 KJW M4 and even that would be twice the price of the DTW if you count up the mags. Everything else (again at comparable to *TW prices) had such the wild fps fluctuations that hopup was useless.
So, beat this: http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21_374&products_id=17123 on price and the features listed above and we'll talk how *TW don't offer user anything that can't be found for considerably less, especially in terms of initial price.
PS. The gbbrs are lovely products and I envy people who can afford to spend often 2x the money of the real steel AR15 on them, but they're much better products for the airsoft play.
Well, to be honest, I wasn't necessarily stating that GBBR are an all round better option than a TW....in fact, if you asked me to select a better option I would say a standard AEG......WTF?!?! REALLY???......yep, really?
Ok, so you say a TW gives you great trigger response, consistant FPS, quick adjustment of FPS and stops firing on last shot. I'm gonna call you out on the "consistant FPS", remember, I owned two DTW's, and the FPS wasn't tragically all over the place, but it was no more or less consistant than my G&G top techs....so I'm gonna discount that as a benefit over a "normal" AEG.
As far as the other aspects you mention, I know I can get some of those things from a standard AEG, but maybe not all of them in a single package...however, look at what can I get from a recoil engine? And now we have the KWA ERG coming in (cheaper than the TM recoil gun) I get fairly great trigger response, recoil simulation, stops firing on last shot....but, not the quick change out of FPS.
But here's the thing, and this is why I said you have to take my point in context. In the UK the FPS limit is pretty consistantly set for 350fps (for an assault rifle), once you get your gun set to 350fps, you'd not want to mess with it....so at least in the UK this feature of switching fps is of severly limited value.
The trigger response on a TW is awesome, and much better than most standard AEG's you can buy out of the box (you'll notice I'm not even talking about GBBR here), but when you couple that awesome trigger response with the relatively delicate nature of TW I'm happy (me personally) to live with the slight delay a standard AEG offers, coupled with considerably more robustness......on a normal AEG I can switch to full auto without changing my underwear and remortgaging my home!!
Ultimately, there's no need to get upset. I was simply giving my report on TW's (DTW's to be exact) based on ownership. I'm not saying that the rifle is rubbish or that it doesn't have a place in airsoft.....FOR ME, it doesn't make sense. If it makes sense for you, then have at it. G&D et al. won't stop producing TW's becasue they lost me as a customer.
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Both of my DTW's are now sold. Final conclusion from me, TW are nice, but....ultimately I think they're too technical for their own good. There's too much that can wrong on these things, and given the price of parts (even the clone rifles) they are too expensive to run. Now, before the pro TW gang start telling me the cost of parts, you need to take my statement in context....the context being, an overview of the airsoft product range. Ultimately, TW do not offer a user anything that they can't get elsewhere, considerably cheaper....both in terms of initial outlay and maintenance.
The final point, these TW (all of them!!!) are too fragile. The amount of people who have reiterated the point of 'do not go full auto with a TW, they're not made for it, just stick with semi or you'll burn out your motor', was the final nail in the coffin. I'm not a trigger spam player, and using gbbr's I know how to control my trigger finger. However, with gbbr's you don't go full auto because of ammo restrictions, with TW, it seems it's more to do with the life of your motor......fail.
So having lived the dream, I feel that the end of the dance has come, and I can close the book on TW. They're lovely products, and my hat goes off to those who can / want to afford to keep them, but I think there are much better products out there for airsoft play....
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I may be wrong but for me airsoft is not only about going out and play but it also about tinkering with my stuff. That is something that makes the feel of airsoft complete to play with something having my own work and knowledge in it.
No one can say you're wrong! Everyone is entitled to enjoy the hobby in the way they want.
But let me clarify my point. I like tinkering as much as the next guy, but there's a difference between tinkering because you want to and tinkering because you have to!!
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Motor and ecu especially, from this wat I heard from the local ptw/ptw clones users motor and ecu is the first to fail.
Yeah, this is looking like the truth. I have two of these DTW's and unfortunately I traded one to a friend, when I traded the rifle it was working fine, but after ten minutes in his ownership (and using an 11.1v Lipo) the rifle is going all sorts of wrong. I only ever used it with a 7.4v Lipo, or at most a 9.6v Nimh. He gets intermittent firing, on semi he sometimes get's full auto, and he gets the ECU lightig up red!!
While those who are well versed in the mysteries of PTW (TW) may know what the root causes of these problems are, due to the fact that the rifle comes with no manual, us mere mortals can only trawl the web and scratch our heads.
Now, I'm relieved I made the choice to focus on GBBR's.........I think I will leave TW's in general to those who have the time (and money).
You get to the point where you just want to f*@king play airsoft and not have to worry constantly about your equipment.....am I alone in this desire?
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Sorry, I might have missed this, but Ehobby was stating the Airo receivers are plastic!?! Is this true? I'd have thought that would be a big talking point, but I had to ask
Edit# looks like Ehobby has updated their page! Question answered.
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Aha.. Impact hammer is loose.. Its not under any tention from the spring at all.. TnL is there any way of taking a photo so I can see how it is supposed to be set up.
Ahh, hopefully you've found the answer. It's probably too early to say "good work".....hey, stop laughing
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as does the standard hop up if you replace the adjuster with the MAG version.
And that's great to know.....now. Problem is, all these little fixes aren't widely known.
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No idea which generation it is, but the PTW hop works just fine.
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What mug sold it to you for such a low price
There's going to be some more super guns going up for sale in the next few days....all brand new, and all at amazing prices....Vipertech, Inokatsu, PTS MKM, Vector(s), VFC HK416 M27 IAR.....and much much more