Cheers i forgot to ask where do you get kobras and how much ? seen a site in usa do really really good 1s thou cost about $200 so about £100 - 130 after postage.... they are the newist generation scopes thou and they saythey do suggest you dont buy up some old 1s from some companys as they have alot of problems. Reasson i was thinking posp is because when i use my M14 i put a snipoer scope on it and yes it wont be zeroed from all distances but i manage to track my bbs and adjust as the bbs do get far away . im considering maybe even getting both lol as i coul have a small bag on my back to cyc