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Top - Jing Gong G36c – 335fps
CA 6mm metal bushings
Reshim
Systema Bearing spring guide
A old Guarder SP100
Swisscheesed CA piston
Vented JG piston head with M3 fixing
16 AWG wiring + Deans Connectors
Mosfet
10.8volt 3300mah NiMH Battery
Guarder clear rubber
Prom 6.03mm x 363mm M4 barrel
Twin thread 150mm Silencer
TM vertical grip
G&P PEQ
Bottom - CA G36 - 355fps
G&P 7mm bearings
Reshim
Guarder bearing spring guide
Prom MS110
Systema Cylinder
CA swisscheesed piston
Vented TM piston head with M3 fixing
CA O-ring air nozzle
Trigger switch simplified - no selector plate contact
16 AWG wiring + Deans Connectors
Mosfet
12volt 4300mah NiMH Battery
Guarder clear rubber
Prom 6.03mm x 534mm SG551 barrel
CA36c rail carry handle
G&P Battery buttstock
Guarder Aimpoint and mount
Camo job of doom
And also notice the very grooving DE81 Clone AEP USP with new wiring and Deans connectors, a lightened piston and an 8.4volt 1100mah Mini battery butchered and taped to the bottom - soon to have a Nineball spring in it too. Quality sidearm, good ROF too.
The CA36 does have a healthy ROF, but it would benifit from a System Turbo I think, until recently it was going to recieve a Systema Magnum, an SP1%0 spring, and remove of the selector to make it a single shot high power jobby, but I have enough range the way it is, and want to keep the ROF, even it is does cost me a fortune in .25's!
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Just got hold of a brand new JG G36 last night, I must say I'm impressed. The body isn't quite as nice as a CA but it's to be expected.
This is what I've done so far:
Externally:
15mm Silencer
CA side rail
G&P 10.8 volt 3300mah PEQ
Internally:
CA metal bushings
CA cylinder
CA tappet plate
CA swiss cheesed piston
M3 piston head fixing
Systema Bearing spring guide
Guarder SP100
Reshim
Rewired with Mosfet and Deans connectors.
Guarder Clear hopup rubber, Prometheus 6.03 x 363mm M4 barrel
All the internal and external mods came from my spares box and I’ll make a £10er back from the battery, all in all it was a bargain and makes for a very decent backup; better than most people’s primary.
Ice
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You should add one of the STANAG conversions to that. It would look awesome!
Why would I want to do that?
Then I would only have 300 round hicaps to use instead of 470, plus I can clip G36 hicaps together. G36 hicaps is so much better than Armalite ones, plus I've got 5 of the buggers so I'm not going to waste them.
Ice
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I changed the camo just enough to warrant another photo.
The white stains are paint, the sheet I used was used as a floor mat for painting..... honestly it's paint.
Ice
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That looks awesome!
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'Bout the same as mine.
So it's doing that FPS but going nowhere; it's obviously hop related, well I'm sure we'll figure it out.
Ice
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You can whack some rounds through it next time I'm down if you like.
To be honest the setup isn't that fast (excluding the battery) it's just got very little trigger delay, your setup on my battery would obviously be faster. Just give it time and more £££.
Ice
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If you dont mind Mike rewired it to the rear with thicker wire, that improved ROF greatly with 8.4v, using a 9.6v gives an impressive sound and stream or bb's they just dont go very far at all lol. We replaced the ported cylinder with normal one but that didnt make any difference at all, just slowed ROF by 2rps
Yeah a larger volume cylinder will slow your ROF a bit, but it will give better airflow with that longer barrel, and when we get it working - higher fps, so it was worth doing.
You down Sunday week?
Ice
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Doesn't sounds too great, still; mind if I have a butchers next time I'm at Worthing; if you're there obviously.
Ice
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Some Cheap'o Tac Light That Doesnt Work
For me, that really makes or breaks the entire setup .
Seriously though; very nice rig, what battery have you got in the stock there?
Ice
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Yeah, but my WGC order hadn't arrived by then so the 12volt was gaffa taped to a C-stock, plus I was firing through a Deepfire 6.04 on solid bushings. So not as smooth or accurate, but it still gave me a decent range advantage over just about everyone, and turned a few heads with the ROF.
The ghillie was a bit of a disaster, totally the wrong colour, especially for this time of year, I think I'll soak it in a bucket of dirty water for a few days or something.
Saw you in the Multicam, bloody geardo . What was with the shotty, didn't you have an AEG?
I'll probably be down Sunday week by the way.
bet that thing fires like a *fruitcage* dream.Oh yes mate, the gearbox is smooth as fudge, it's got the new CA gearset too, 4 catches on the bevel, coupled to the 12volt; trigger delay is minimal, but I want to bring it down even further.
Ice
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A poor excuse for a ghillie, yes.
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Externals:
CA36
CA36c top rail
G&P retractable butt stock
G36c rail on foregrip
Guarder aimpoint rep
Internal mods:
Prometheus 6.03 x 534mm barrel
Guarder hopup rubber
CA O-ring airnozzle
Systema type-0 NB Cylinder
TM piston (heavily modified)
Vented TM piston head with M3 fixing
Guarder SP100 spring
Guarder bearing spring guide
G&P 7mm ball race bearings
Re-shim
Selector plate removed and switch assembly simplified
Rear wired with 16awg
Deans connectors
12volt 4300mah NiMH battery.
Deadly accurate and with .25s the range is awesome, plus obviously the ROF is quite impressive.
Future mods: Systema Magnum motor, Mosfet, maybe change to 14awg wiring.
Ice
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but the uk ones dont have an aluminium piston. unlike the AE
I thought the ICS M4 anniversary edition was the only ICS to have an aluminium piston, or have they tripped on enough acid to come up with a reason to put it into the MP5 as well?
Can anyone actually confirm this?
Ice
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Why are people complaining this gearbox isn't reinforced? It's a V2, it doesn't need to be built like brick at the rear, it just needs to be strong at the front. Ok so the window isn't filed like a CA for example, but it wouldn't be a huge effort to file it.
The VFC piston isn't too bad at all, I've read about people running them on 12 volts, and vfc removed the 2nd tooth in the mold which is clever.
I don't understand why people get excited over the piston head. Yes it's aluminium, that's hardly a great thing, alu head just transfer more energy to the shell reducing its life. VFC have used the same piston, head and gearset in all their AEGs I believe.
On thing that really puzzles me is why VFC use a 7mm gearbox with those self shimming gears. The only reason I can see as to have a 7mm gearbox is so people can use ball race bearings if they wish, however you can't couple ball race bearings with those self shimming gears because the spring give axial force to the bearings, reducing their life. It's almost as though VFC expect people to swap out their bushings and their gears.
Ice
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Piston head looks damaged too.
Raptor, if possible could you find out what kind of hopup rubber is in there and also whether it needs an M14 barrel like the TM, or will any barrel fit? (TM barrel has the c-clip cuts further up)
Cheers mate, great review
Ice
ps, keep us posted on any modifications and upgrades you perform.
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The standard ratio gear set are a huge bonus over the V7 spur in the TM gearbox, but it makes you wonder whether they enlarged the body a little to fit the deaper gearbox.
Raptor mate, on Cheapos airsoft you posted this review with gearbox pics, can we have them on here?
Here's another decent review with internal shots.
Ice
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When will KSC and TM learn to put metal mag catches on their Glocks, I know the real steal doesn't have one, but when the plastic one wears down it always leaves a gap between the rubber outlet and the engine inlet.
Ice
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Nope, because Systema and subsequently all other spring manufactures calculate their springs using .25bbs, not .2s. So with a .25s you should get 328fps from a 100, however with a .2, which is the most common round you end up getting about 350, in most cases more.
If you only get 328ish from a 100 it means you're losing air pressure.
Ice
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This question would have been more suited to the technical section, this thread predates god, and hasn't had a post for a millennium.
1 - It uses a V3 gearbox, however it's not any kind of Royal.
2 - Yes it can handle an M120 and nothing else, however this will give you 400+fps, rather than the 350 you want.
3 - Yes a Prometheus tightbore will give you more accuracy, even at low FPS.
To get to the fps you want get an M100, not a 120.
Ice
Anyone still around from the old days?
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Just logged on for the first time in 7 years, haven’t scored in 12 I think... lockdown makes us do funny things.
Decided after racing cars for 10 years I can afford a side hobby, so it’s time for some more softing.
... no let’s build an SSG 35rps reliable ROF monster and get back on the horse!
... oh wait, all the sites are closed.