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DeadChristmas69 posted a topic in Pistols (Spring)This is Dead_Christmas's (DeadChristmas69's) review of the Crosman Stinger P36. Its true name is the M43F. (OEM'd by Double Eagle).Memories of the past await! The Crosman P36 takes us back to a time far into history!...The exact time I cannot recall. *Shrugs* My age was ten when I got my first copy of this replica. This pistol was actually my first airsoft handgun! The version my mother bought for me was the transparent plastic one with black grips. One event remains in my recollection. The battle between my neighbor and I at an unpopular local park, far out in the countryside. My friend's Remington Wingmaster proved to be an overwhelming opponent for my meager sidearm. The battle was his, and I hadn't stood a chance.The present day is our focus, now. Currently, two Crosman versions are in my possession. Clear and black, sitting alongside a sort of desert camouflaged-grip and clear plastic version. Both of them were eBay listings, calling out to me for purchasing. Of course, I felt more than happy to oblige. Both of my copies arrived with their magazines, and used, but undamaged condition. Excitement at the prospect of owning another piece of my childhood was almost palpable!Now, their specifications will be listed:Retailer brand, OEM: Crosman, Double Eagle.Origin of production: ChinaModel names: Stinger SASP36/P36 by Crosman, M43F by Double Eagle.Price: About 16$ for the SASP36 itself, and 4.99$ for an extra magazine (SM1P36). Due to scarcity of both items mentioned previously, prices will vary. Common second-hand prices range from 20$-30$ including the cost of shipping.Package includes: Crosman P36 (SASP36), one magazine (CR-SM1P36/SM1P36), owner's manual, warning sticker, 100 Crosman .12 gram pellets in an LLDPE bag.Real gun counterpart: STI 2011 4.0, precise model unknown. Likely chambered in 9mm.Firing mechanism: Spring-action, manual cocking, single shot.Caliber: 6 millimeters, 0.24 inches.Velocity with .12, and .20 gram pellets: Roughly 200 FPS, and roughly 154 FPS, respectively.Sights: Fixed front blade, fixed rear notch. Entirely unmarked.Build materials: ABS plastic externals entirely, ABS plastic internals almost entirely. ABS plastic constructed magazine. Aluminum inner barrel. Steel springs and screws. Contains lead weights in the grip, and inside the magazine.Some examples of accessories designed for this model: Crosman/Game Face Pistol Holster (SAH02), Crosman/Game Face Shoulder Holster (SAH03), Crosman Class 2 Red Laser (71599), Crosman/Game Face LED Weapon Light (75901).Weight: .68 lbs, .31kg.Overall length: 7.5 inches, 19 centimeters.Inner barrel: Smooth bore, aluminum. Exact length unknown, but likely around four inches long.Hop up: Yes, fixed, designed for .12 gram pellets.Range: Short with .12 gram pellets, and .20 gram pellets. The hop up has a noticeable affect on .12 gram pellets, but almost none with .20 gram pellets.Accuracy: Poor with .12 gram pellets even after cleaning the inner barrel, hop up, and pellet loading path. .12 gram pellets fly either above and left or right of the sight picture with poor consistency of accuracy. .20 gram pellets are significantly more accurate, and fly in a flat trajectory. Consistency of accuracy with .20 gram pellets is okay.Outer barrel threads: None.Accessory rails: Yes, one picatinny rail with one locking screw slot on the bottom of the frame. Not the same size as real picatinny rails, but can fit weaver and picatinny accessories provided that the locking screw is not too wide.Magazine Capacity: 14 rounds.Safety: Yes, lever, it is the fake slide-stop.Orange tip removal: Not recommended, glued in place to the outer barrel. Outer barrel will become too short, have a black piece protruding from the bottom of the outer barrel, and become receded into the slide.Parts that are known to break: Trigger, and the back of the slide.Markings/trademarks: "STINGER P36", "CAL. 6mm BB", "made in china", "SAFE", "FIRE", "WARNING: BEFORE USING, READ OWNER'S MANUAL AVAILABLE FROM CROSMAN CORP, E. BLOOMFIELD, NY 14443 US.". Five digit serial number.My subjective view on appropriate uses for this replica: Backyard war. Target practice.Personal thoughts: This is obviously a pistol designed for target practice, or for battling with other spring weapons. Though, the P36 falls short in comparison to even other handguns above and below its price range. Nostalgia and sentimental value what primarily attract me to it. It's an ancient model presently, with the earliest review discovered to be from 2005. eBay currently has three of them available, or one might be found Goodwill's online store. Spare magazines are next to impossible to find, though I own two of them. The P36's grips are comfortable to hold, and indoor target shooting is a fair challenge with this sidearm. The biggest challenge in that, is figuring out how to position the sights in order to properly cannonball .20 gram pellets.It's light, fairly small, and does a decent shot. Most importantly, the P36 reminds me of fond, and possibly rose-tinted memories from my childhood.Images of the SASP36 will be posted in the future.
I'm reviewing today the KWA TT-33 Tokarev, which may or may not be officially released and there is virtually no info out about this gun. So I'm here to provide some info! MSRP for this gun is $135. Magazines are around $30 each. Inside The Box The box itself is made of medium strength cardboard with styrofoam encasing the gun and parts. Inside the box, you get: -Gun -Magazine -Hop-up Adjustment Tool -Lube -Small bag of .25 KSC BBs -Paperwork -Manual The gun is held firmly in place in the Styrofoam bed, which has room for a spare magazine (one can be kept in the gun itself) with a spare slot for the usual bits and pieces that come with a new KWA. First Impressions At first glance the TT-33 looks pretty bad***. It has a finish in black that is slightly shiny. The coloring all over the gun is almost exactly the same, a deep black color. The gun is modeled to be exactly the same as the real TT-33, KWA did a great job on it. This gun is very, very light. 1.65 lbs actually, according to KWA. The balance is VERY good. This gun has both an aluminium slide as well as an aluminium frame, which helps aid it's lightness, compared to WE's heavy and clunky pot metal. Metal parts abound, so it is easier to tell you what is made out of plastic. The two grip sides, and the barrel....Yeah, there is a lot of metal. The only wobble in the gun, at all, period, is the magazine. Take the magazine out, and you can shake the gun around and hear nothing. The wobble is very minimal. Close Look The trademarks on the gun are as follows: Magazine Catch side: -O120301499U * KWA (engraved, black) Chamber side: -Manufactured in Taiwan (looks painted on, white) Top: BK989 * 1941 (engraved, black) Grips: -CCCP around a star The * is an actual star on the gun. The gun does not come with a safety, instead using a quirky trigger setup. You have to push from the top and angle slightly downwards, if you just push on the bottom the trigger will not move all the way backward. After some test firing, I got used to it pretty quickly. The KWA comes equipped with fixed sights. Both are very simple, very barebones, but they work. Remember, this gun is from 1941! The gun comes with a plastic outer barrel, mostly to use less wear and work better with the NS2 system. The KWA uses it's usual hop-up on the gun, adjustable with a tool by locking the slide open and putting the tool inside the chamber. Hop-up adjustment is right for less hop, and left for more. The magazine is no frills design. The big thing, it only holds 10+1 rounds. Yes, only ten. You may want to carry a speed loader and extra mags with you. The mag itself holds enough gas for around 25 rounds. Produced completely from metal (except for the rubber gas routing and the loading lip), the KWA magazine is actually rather light. Like most KWA magazines, the follower can be locked at the bottom for easier loading. Unlike the Marui, BBs must be loaded through the feed lips. The KWA comes with an orange tip painted on the barrel, and the barrel extends past the slight, unlike the real TT-33. I'm hoping for an aftermarket slide+barrel kit to come and fix this, along with adding some more trademarks. Shooting Impressions The gun has decent kick, with a good trigger pull and a decent hammer. Overall it's a lot like other KWA offerings. The slide locks reliably, and the action is completely smooth, with no jerkiness at all. When it comes to shooting performance, I found the gun has around 150 foot range, and accuracy up to about 115 feet. Using .25s of course. The accuracy is decent, and the hop works very well, almost on the lines of TM. On airsoftGI and some other websites, they say the gun chronoes at 340-350 FPS. I think this is exaggerated a little bit, and they do use .20s. KWA on the other hand, in their manual, says it's at 280 FPS. I suspect they used .25s and 134a gas for this chrono reading. I think the gun rests at about 310-330 with .20s and green gas/propane. Take Down I do not know how the real TT-33 takes down, but this is how the KWA version does. 1. Remove magazine, make sure there are no BBs chambered in the gun. 2. On the chamber side, grab the little straight line thing and pull on the tab, freeing the pin that is to the front of the gun. 3. Push the pin and pull the slide lock out of the gun. 4. Pull the slide off of the gun. 5. Push the spring guide forward, then let it come out of the gun. It is a two peice + spring affair, it does stay together though. 6. Spin the front part of the slide upwards. Pull it off. 7. Pull the barrel through the front of the slide. After you do that, you should be here. The gun comes stock lubed, and KWA also includes lube with the gun when that stuff wears off. Conclusion Overall, I think the gun is a great new offering to those who like older guns, or eastern euro guns. It's a great replica and I'll be happy to skirmish with it. Even though it only has 10 rounds, it's performance is very good and I can't wait to give you guys a skirmish report next time I go play. Happy airsofting! Realism: 7/10 (barely any trades, extended barrel) Quality of gun: 8/10 Performance: 9/10 Skirmishability: 8/10 Total: 8/10