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    WE P-38

    The WE P-38,The first *actual* full metal airsoft replica of the walther P-38, has at long last landed in my hands. I have been excited about this gun from the day that WE teased about it, showing the prototype in the white along with the M84, Makarov and P99. These are my initial impressions of it. While I understand that the P38 has been available for months, I was not a fan of the cheap looking "Blue" version, and so I waited for it to be available in normal black. There are some "Blue" parts to even the black P-38, and seeing the finish on them, Im very happy I waited. I will say that I am not disappointed by the painted finish at all, but more on that later. First, some pictures: Left side: Right side: Breach open: The fit and finish are very nice. Not only for a WE product, but for any airsoft gun. There is very little play between parts, or slack to the return spring. the barrel does rattle slightly when the slide is retracted, but i imagine this is likely the case on the real one as well. There was a lot of talk about whether or not this particular model was a clone of the older Maruzen model. Having both to compare, I can say that the WE version is not a straight up clone. Maruzen's gun was without question the basis for the WE design, however, WE seem to have taken Maruzens version and improved it in many ways. So, many of the parts are completely different, though some are identical. For example, The hopup unit is here: While it does bear a resemblance to the maruzen unit, both the hopup unit and loading nozzle are completely incompatible. The loading nozzle is a different shape which uses a standard WE setup. It doesnt have the two holes in the magazine gas bucking either like the Maruzen does. More interesting is the hopup bucking itself: Unlike the Maruzen version, It appears that the WE uses a standard VSR-10 type bucking, which would give it a lot of upgrade potential. Another one of the parts which has been redesigned is the valve striker system. Whereas the Maruzen had a thin striker which was forced through a pot metal guide block (Which coincidentally wore out on all of my Maruzens, turning them into paperweights), WE seems to have simplified this portion of the design: The valve striker is now much more conventional, And along the lines of many of WE's other GBB pistols. It also looks like it cant eat itself apart ala the Maruzen version. Here is a picture of all major parts disassembled. Some parts like the barrel locking lug and leaf spring are identical to maruzen. I imagine that the safety, slide release, and take down levers are also compatible, were you to need replacement parts. Gas consumption seems moderate. filled normally, the magazine will give approximately two magazines worth of BBs per fill. the second mag, depending on the time given, may not lock back the slide, but there is no problem with the first run. However, using the usual trick for single stack mags, where the first fill of gas is rapidly discharged manually, and then filled again, I was able to get 2-3 mags with slidelock, plus another 2 mags worth without locking. (This works for many other single stack magazines as well, like the 1911's and Lugers) Output seems to be relatively consistent over the first two mags (When venting/filling). Hovering between 285 and 295 fps. And dipping down to about 270 and change as the magazine cooled down during the third go. During the first fill of BB's however, there was no major dip in fps. Recoil is relatively light but very crisp. No slop to it at all. I wasn't able to do a proper accuracy test, though at 50-ish feet i could hit a torso sized target without an issue. I plan to go back and do one properly with pictures when i get another chance though. A few other notes. Maruzen mags are not compatible. The gas release valve is very different on the maruzen, as well as the gas bucking. The slides and frames, while they will swap between the WE and Maruzen, do not function when doing so. And, Maruzen grips will fit the WE just fine. Now, about the paint. I think this is about as proper a paintjob as Ive seen on a WE gun. Its not the usual thin garbage they used to use. While im sure it isnt anything special, If you notice the right side of my barrel has some scuffs in it. This is because while messing around during testing, a kwa 1911a1 magazine with a steel baseplate fell on the p38 from standing height. It scuffed the paint but didnt scratch it, so i think the paint is fairly durable. I would buff it out, but i'll just wait till i can get a replacement. If you look you'll see that the magazine does still have the "Blue" finish like the original release. Some people thought the rainbow effect might just be from the cameras, but its not. It seriously just looks like swirly rainbow ###### in person too. And one last thing. Because of the Redwolf video, some people might think the P38 has no double action feature. This is not the case, It's double action works the same as on the real steel P38. Meaning, the gun actually has to be chambered first and then decocked. Simply inserting a magazine and pulling the trigger will do nothing as the valve knocker isnt retracted (And on the RS P38, no round would be chambered). If you were to do that on an average Marui, it might cycle the slide, but as there would be no bb chambered, it still wouldn't accomplish anything. But, I did find it somewhat amusing that the guys at Redwolf have no clue how double action works. So, overall, I would say that if you're looking for a WW2 sidearm or just a pistol in general, i would definitely recommend WE's P38.
  2. Hi Thought I write a little review of my WE P38k after I got to play around with it this weekend. As stated in the title, it is picture heavy. (There is also a rant at the end that has nothing to do with the review but thoughts about this and the RS and what WE did wrong here in my opinion.) Buying: I bought it from WGCShop for 110$ and 26,60$ in shipping so in total 136,60$, easy and fast shipping from WGC as always, didn't get stopped or checked in customs. First impression & whats in the box: I picked it out of the box and the first I thought was, damn what a strange shape! Its really short, it feels like a compact gun but the grip is long and big like from any other gun. It is also heavy for its size. It comes with a inner barrel and a silencer, for those who got the WE Makarov PMM will this feel familiar. Both the inner and outer barrel is threaded to extend the inner barrel and cover it up with the silencer. The silencer on this is longer than the one who comes with the Makarov Something that really hit me when I first picked it up were how terrible the grips are, don't get me wrong, they are good to hold but as you run your finger over, you can feel the cheap plastic and it doesn't take much for it to creak, when tapped on it sounds hollow and plastiky. Thankfully the grips are an exact copy of the Maruzen P38 grips so I will be changing mine out for some bakelite or wood very soon. Specs, and internals: As mentioned it is heavy for its size, it weigh in at around 700g. The length is 16,5 cm without silencer and 30,5 cm with silencer. The magazine holds 14 BB's, the gas reservoir is not that good (at least not on mine), you get off all shots but it needs gas after each magazine. The BB follower may sometimes get caught when putting the magazine in the gun cause it sticks out a good bit. The gun uses a "european" magazine release, like a hook under the grip, this is easy to use, maybe, maybe to easy, I have never dropped out the magazine by accident but feel like it could happen cause there's not much resistant to the release hook. My guess its a weak spring. The blowback and kick is really nice, it has a recoil spring on each side as the RS. The bolt reminds of a Beretta M9 in a way The bolt uses a tiny hex to turn the hop, it is located right above the barrel. Slide internals As seen here, there is a part that already have gotten a lot of wear, I do not know what it does and I have no idea if the wear will do anything to the gun yet. Problems: I have encountered somewhat of a problem, the safety/de-cocker will sometimes not work, it is really stiff and when pushed hard it makes a strange click sound and it works, and sometimes it is impossible to move at all, I haven't gotten the time to see what makes this problem so of now, its a mystery. Shooting: Shooting this is pretty I was outside in 13C so pretty cold, the results is probably way better in warmer weather. The fps I got was about 230-240 and with the extended inner barrel I got 300-310 fps. It shoots pretty accurate for a stock gun, grouping from 10m away was about 4-5 inches. Again, it would probably be better on a warm day but its damn cold in Norway around this time Conclusion: I think this is a well made replica and WE have really started to sell good products and stepped up their manufacturing recently. The gun is nice and solid, good looking and kicks hard, the extended barrel and silencer is just a plus considering the already low price. All in all, this is a nice gun I would recommend. Mini rant that has nothing to do with the review but the gun and WE: So as a collector I want things to be as close to the RS as possible but with this gun, I have no idea what WE thought, someone there did not do their homework. The K or short version of the Walther P38 was never made during WW2, so why do WE say this is in their "classic lineup"? They said their classic lineup is guns from WW2 or older, this gun was made in limited number in the late 70's. It also came with wood grips and were in fact made on a Walther P4 doh called a P38k, the P4 looks exactly like a P38 but the safety/de-cocker is not a safety at all, only a de-cocker where on this replica it is both. So i'm not sure what gun this is suppose to be, I will be putting wood grips on it and saying its a P38k and hopefullt WE will do a little more research next time on coming models.

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