rwham Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 450 fps for support is the limit in Texas Sorry, I'm just happy, hope this is as good as it sounds and is really $300. Link to post Share on other sites
rwham Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I believe that the gun is pre-upgraded. Like the JG S-System, which is pumping 420. Gary B. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You what? http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant....Gs&Store_Code=R Doesn't look like 420 to me... Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 $300? It'd be worth it depending on how well the GB runs. If it doesn't shoot well then I could care less about the stamped body or whatever, it'd just be a $300 paperweight. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. $300 - $350 is not what I was expecting, so any "rough edges" will pretty much make this as much as an out of the question purchase as a Classic Army M249. But it will be nice to know how this develops. Link to post Share on other sites
Hustie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I would never expect to buy a chinese gun without at least a little of internal upgrading, 'tis life. On the other hand I kinda sorta don't like the thought of a cheapo chinese M249 clone... Link to post Share on other sites
TheAverageAsian Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Now that you mentioned it, having a cheap SAW could get pretty bad. Hundreds of newbies showing up with belts of ammunition across there chest, will be a tiring sight. And with the lack of trigger control thanks to 2000+rd box mags, a new definition of spray and pray is in order. Heres a small conversation for example. Me: Get down! We have targets at 3 and 6 o' clock. Noob: Don't worry I can get us out of this! *racks the bolt on the SAW* Me: Wait! Stop! Noob: FOR SPARTA!!!! *As he runs aimlessly into the enemy spraying everywhere, while being cut down by hundreds of BB's...* Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissyg Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Oh dear...every man and his dog will have one now. Link to post Share on other sites
NickN Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 You what? http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant....Gs&Store_Code=R Doesn't look like 420 to me... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's the A&K, not the JG. Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 is it gonna be mostly metal?? and i think $450 is too high. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> that's the fps, the price is around $300. pretty good if you ask me although for performance and quality, we still have to wait. But doesn't this make people who own the Star M249s angry? I mean, a full metal receiver and gearbox for half the price? lol. And if it turns out to perform flawlessly with fabulous externals...wow... Link to post Share on other sites
The End Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Now that you mentioned it, having a cheap SAW could get pretty bad. Hundreds of newbies showing up with belts of ammunition across there chest, will be a tiring sight. And with the lack of trigger control thanks to 2000+rd box mags, a new definition of spray and pray is in order. Heres a small conversation for example. Me: Get down! We have targets at 3 and 6 o' clock. Noob: Don't worry I can get us out of this! *racks the bolt on the SAW* Me: Wait! Stop! Noob: FOR SPARTA!!!! *As he runs aimlessly into the enemy spraying everywhere, while being cut down by hundreds of BB's...* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think having a cheap saw would be good. It would enable people who like airsoft, but who don't have the $$$ to finally get one. ahahhah being cut down by bbs would be fun to watch though.. Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Personally i'm looking forwards to a cheap M249.It means i can buy one & then not worry to much if it spends most of its time in its box while i'm not gaming with it.It also means if i need a support weapon for a game i can go pull it out of storage easily enough.I never carried a support weapon when i was in the army & i've used the CA M249 in one game as a loaner,in the game it was a grin inducer because i knew i could put it down when i wanted & i didn't have to carry shed loads of ammo for it! Link to post Share on other sites
happyboy Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 The 450+ FPS could've been measured using 0.12 BBs just to make the gun sound better. Lots of Chinese gun manufacturers do that. This, however, is a huge step up on the part of A&K. No manufacturer has offered an inexpensive SAW before, so they'd better make it good. Link to post Share on other sites
davecymru Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Personally I'm keeping an eye on this one as a parts donor! i.e. if the box mag is compatible then that will be a good start. Then if it's got a metal bipod, another win. And if they do a para-version and the stock is not completely poopy then it'll allow me to have a whole bundle of options! I might even have a look to see if i can use it's gearbox as a spare/backup to my trusty (<-- joke!) bellows Link to post Share on other sites
The End Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Oh dear...every man and his dog will have one now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> no....$300 est. is still alot of money for people..... Also, some people are complaining about Noobs buying this gun and praying and spraying.... the arrivial of a clone M249 won't encourage this. As we all know, most arisoft guns are simply comsmetic, and all a noob needs to do is buy a famas and a couple of hi-caps, and the would have a poor man's M249. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 If it will be priced like CA assault rifles, that's a decent price to pay. I'm not worried. As Confucius (or was that DarkLite?!) said: "Big gun, big price." Link to post Share on other sites
Bravo117TR Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 I think having a cheap saw would be good. It would enable people who like airsoft, but who don't have the $$$ to finally get one. ahahhah being cut down by bbs would be fun to watch though.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree, I just bought a JG M4A1, kinda kicking myself in the *albatross* for it, because now i want both this CA M249 clone, and the A&K SPR Mk 12 Mod.0. It really does expand the options for airsofters on a limited budget though, and if this is as good as A&K's other guns, or so i've read, it should do the job just fine. no....$300 est. is still alot of money for people..... Also, some people are complaining about Noobs buying this gun and praying and spraying.... the arrivial of a clone M249 won't encourage this. As we all know, most arisoft guns are simply comsmetic, and all a noob needs to do is buy a famas and a couple of hi-caps, and the would have a poor man's M249. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree with both things lol Being 16 with no freaking job (thank you small new england town) 300 bucks is tough to rummage up. Hell, even getting an AK with a few high caps would do the trick. The CYMA AK would be perfect too, cheap, decent fps, and if you burn it out, not as big of a loss as a TM Famas would be. Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 But doesn't this make people who own the Star M249s angry? I mean, a full metal receiver and gearbox for half the price? lol. And if it turns out to perform flawlessly with fabulous externals...wow... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nope, Ok My STAR one does have a lot of plastic on it (Although at some point its going to get replaced with at least some metal parts like the heat sink) but it does work really well the gear box is easy to get to and work on. Also it came with a sold case and cost me 375 quid. I have had it for a year as well so have had plenty of use out of it to so I've no gripes with it whatsoever which is all you can ask for out of an AEG really, its not like I brought a TOP MP40......................... Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I'm sorry, but 450 fps out of the box is a red flag that this is bull. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> as has been said, JG S-System puts out 420 stock. proven. tested. on 2. metal parts too. and metal receivers are starting to come out of the cloners. cheers, zT Link to post Share on other sites
UnProfessional Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 as has been said, JG S-System puts out 420 stock. proven. tested. on 2. metal parts too. and metal receivers are starting to come out of the cloners. cheers, zT <{POST_SNAPBACK}> off topic, but has anyone been able to find the JG s-system anywhere? Link to post Share on other sites
Forze Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 i believe he means the M16A2-M16-a3 which run @ 380-420fps. Link to post Share on other sites
mililanishooter Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 JG is actually really good.... lol externally is the same as marui..... or better....in some cases..... internally for some reason.... looks and feels better as well.... dont know why but JG is really up there now.... the gears seam to be CA kine.... if they make the SAW... im a definate buyer cause the internals are all awesome so far.... coming from owning the AUG, G36, M16A4, and MP7 all good guns!.... Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge14 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 TBH I'm not excited, more disappointed. I liked it when support guns were heavy and expensive so only some people could carry them. (Depending on the cost) we could see an influx of "support" and "mg gunners". Same thing goes for STAR. Link to post Share on other sites
ECRRRainman Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Limit the amount of support weapons allowed on a team, thats the easy solution, that way there aren't too many support weapons on the field and even the broke peeps can play the role. I am a STAR mkII owner and I am only very slighty bothered by this release, I really wanted a metal SAW but the maneuverability and the autowinding feature on the STAR is priceless, yep im that lazy Link to post Share on other sites
lineman66 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 The STAR 249 is unique in that the boxmag is a true auto winding box mag (winds as you pull the trigger) out of the package rather than having to do custom work to make it so. Honestly there's no point in talking how STAR owners will be sad over the release of this weapon as this product was no avaliable when the STAR came out, and the same things could be said about all airsoft guns. Link to post Share on other sites
crimsonfalcon07 Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 I'm still skeptical about the GB; I have yet to see a Chinese clone gearbox that can handle sustained FA. That being said, it wouldn't be that much more expensive to build a new GB for it out of custom parts that WOULD be able to take the strain, and you'd have a really nice 249. Glad to see this come out, it might have to be a project for me come next year. Link to post Share on other sites
zerograffit Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 i dont know man, but the chinese scar i own could handle a systema m150 2.08J Link to post Share on other sites
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