Siygess Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I would have agreed if you said that one or maybe two years ago, but nowadays it's definitely in use on deployment. I guess that goes to show that most of the PJ pictures that can be found on MilitaryPhotos or even on the Pararescue.com site are lagging behind a bit - but this is actually good news for me. Now I don't have to replace the stock on my M4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I guess that goes to show that most of the PJ pictures that can be found on MilitaryPhotos or even on the Pararescue.com site are lagging behind a bit Some are, and some aren't. Just a few are taken in Iraq or Afghanistan, it's the reason why we don't see many Crane Stocks on pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siygess Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Good point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Eagle Universal Chest Rigs have been seen a couple times aswell. Do you have any reference pictures? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I might. i'll have to look on my other flashdrive. CZ, if your dead set on Green gear, I'd either get a Smoke Green Paraclete HPC or maybe a Woodland RACK. I think I've seem pics of those before. but still, your best bet is MJK or some CB gear. Siygess, how is the BHI Harness? For my kit i want one since they are cheap, but are they comfy and do they feel alright on the important areas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zarda999 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) I have seen OD. I'll post pics in a min. EDIT: pics. I have some more OD. Use what you want or what works for the environment. It's what they would do. Jolly -Ryan Edited March 27, 2009 by zarda999 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CapaciousZepher Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Yeah I've definitely seen OD gear used as well, just seems like tan/CB is more common. - CapaciousZepher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siygess Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) Yeah, like I said before, it seems as though OD gear over DCU or tan flightsuits is most common during training ops and older pictures (just to put a number on it, lets say 2000 .. 2002). OD over woodland is, I dare say, more common but even then it tends to be CB or Khaki over woodland. But honestly, an OD RRV is going to cover up most of the tan PACA anyway and I'm sure it's going to look pretty awesome. I figure.. if you can't replicate a load out exactly, there's nothing wrong with doing the next best thing and replicating it in spirit.. as long as you make it look good As for the BHI harness, I got the TRH (it's the more expensive - and secure looking - of the two harnesses BHI offer). It's one size fits all and pretty comfortable without being constricting in a place where, well, you don't want to get constricted! Apart from the price, the other thing that persuaded me to try it over something like a Black Diamond harness was the fact that the leg loops were on the inside of the leg so in theory wouldn't interfere with the straps from my safariland. In practise it hasn't quite worked out like that but I'm happy enough with it. Edited March 27, 2009 by Siygess Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hendrix2247 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 I believe he's an instructor now-but that could have changed. Nice pics. Yeah, I've spoken to him. He is an instructor at Hurlburt Field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zarda999 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Update Multicam Ciacs is now standard as well as Multicam RRVs. All multicam kit is being issued as well. -Ryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Update Multicam Ciacs is now standard as well as Multicam RRVs. All multicam kit is being issued as well. -Ryan For Rescue Squadrons pilots and door gunners only...Not for all AFSOC members. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) Update Multicam Ciacs is now standard as well as Multicam RRVs. All multicam kit is being issued as well. -Ryan hahaha, I know where you got the info. I think PJ got some of those kits also though. Edited March 28, 2009 by Jolly15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) I think PJ got some of those kits also though. Maybe PJs could have some on the field, but they really enjoy their liberty on gear choice, I don't think it will be issued. (and CIACS are more bulky than their actual choices (HPC/chest rigs/I think even RAV are less bulky/and other stuffs) so it's hard to think it will be used) Edited March 28, 2009 by matfar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Ya, the CIACS I put on was extremely heavy, but they could use the RRV or H harness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Yeah you're right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peabird Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 To add something to this theoretical talk (let pictures speak!) Have fun! PEA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 To add something to this theoretical talk (let pictures speak!) Have fun! PEA "Excuse me sir, your M9 is painted red and made out of plastic!" j/k. Thanks for the pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CapaciousZepher Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) How does this sound for a PJ rifle? - M4A1 - Old style (non-LE) retractible stock - rubber stock pad - RIS - KAC vert grip - Aimpoint w/ mount (wilcox mount kosher?) - ARMS low-pro BUIS - PEQ - barrel mounted M203 long - surefire light w/ rail mount mount (not sure which model surefire yet) - Krylon spray job. It will also be used for my generic US SF loadout. As far as time frame I'm thinking around 2003ish. - CapaciousZepher Edited April 1, 2009 by CapaciousZepher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siygess Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I'm not sure about the aimpoint mount because I'm useless at identifying those, but everything else sounds spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Wilcox mount is okay, rubber pad is not necessary (except for your shoulder^^), a PAQ-4 or VTAL-2 could be a nice PJ touch instead of PEQ, M203 is okay but don't take HE grenade replica, they are used to fire signal and smoke grenades, take a small surefire, G2, scoutlight or m951. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Run a QD mount for your 203. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Sounds good CZ. As far as the Aimpoint mount, get a USGI L-Mount (G&P makes several, the "QRP" mount is a good one). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CapaciousZepher Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Not too into the L-mount, so if the wilcox has been seen before, I'll go with that. I was planning on a QD M203 mount, yeah. - CapaciousZepher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atomicaardvark Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 - PEQ a PAQ-4 or VTAL-2 could be a nice PJ touch instead of PEQ Whilst I agree that a PEQ-4 or VTAL-2 would be a nice touch, and an unusual addition to a weapon; there are photos of PEQ-2 being run. I'm actually thinking of going down the same route as CapaciousZepher and rebuilding my TM M4, utilising a PEQ-2 to house my battery (as the weapon will double for both my PJ and SF impressions). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CapaciousZepher Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Yeah I'm thinking PEQ-2 because they are readily available and inexpensive as well as housing my battery, at least until I start running buffer tube lipos. I'll probably pick up the VFC. - CapaciousZepher Edited April 2, 2009 by CapaciousZepher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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