Dragoondark Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I don't remember ever using a sim round bolt that was that blue, not saying its not just most I've used were a bright silver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I've seen plenty of pics with blue bolt M4 for sim, its training, so it's sim rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I've also got pics of them running what look a lot like Eagle G-Code holsters as well (as an aside I've seen pics of Army SF running the G-Code too, so it's got to be pretty good at its job). Â Â Apparently, G-Codes are really nice. I want one for my real gat. Â Guys, would you say thier is an even mix of real world operators using both 1 and 2 piece TT MAV's? Or does it lean one way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I've seen plenty of pics with blue bolt M4 for sim, its training, so it's sim rounds. Â You know this how? Please tell me you have done some military training. Â The sim's I have used have all had blue bolts, blue barrels and clear mag's. Just because it's training doesn't mean it has to be sim rounds. I have never seen any sim rifle with a normal barrel, mags and painted. But I also have never used a 5.56 sim round. I mean the 9mm ones hurt enough. I do believe Wrench Bender in him saying it could be sim rounds because he actually does training. Â So unless you actually have done something, please keep quiet, I don't want to hear some picture opinions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) I've also got pics of them running what look a lot like Eagle G-Code holsters as well (as an aside I've seen pics of Army SF running the G-Code too, so it's got to be pretty good at its job).  Apparently, G-Codes are really nice. I want one for my real gat. Guys, would you say thier is an even mix of real world operators using both 1 and 2 piece TT MAV's? Or does it lean one way? I heard some good thing about G-Code too, but seen it only on SFG, I never noticed one on AF SF Can you post the pic you talk about AtomicAaardvark?  1 and 2 pieces MAV are used, I think nowadays the 2 is more used, but the 1 is always seen. Edited March 5, 2009 by matfar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragoondark Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I've done training with sim rounds, ones that shoot the blue paint bbs. To convert our standard m16s & m4s all we did was exchange the bolt with a very bright silver bolt and loaded the simunition rounds into standard mags. The simunition rounds looked like something out of underworld or similar werewolf hunter movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
föhoni Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 The guy in the back is definatly a CCT. He's rocking a Paraclete carrier (maybe AWS), 10.5" Rifle, and the civie version of those one knee pads (Arcy.......somthing). Based on the nature of these items and Rangers strict SOP, I'm 100% sure this guy is CCT. EDIT: Also, CCT's have worked with Rangers on numerous occasions.    Many rangers SF or other guys work with 10,5 barrel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
echodafish Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 You know this how? Please tell me you have done some military training. The sim's I have used have all had blue bolts, blue barrels and clear mag's. Just because it's training doesn't mean it has to be sim rounds. I have never seen any sim rifle with a normal barrel, mags and painted. But I also have never used a 5.56 sim round. I mean the 9mm ones hurt enough. I do believe Wrench Bender in him saying it could be sim rounds because he actually does training.  So unless you actually have done something, please keep quiet, I don't want to hear some picture opinions.   We are using 5.56 sim rounds almost exclusively here. We don't run blue barrels or bolts for them since we qualify on the same weapons as well. I do believe it is SOP though to have blue barrels and bolts if the weapon is ONLY used for training. *suitcase* the blue barrels might even be tape and just the bolt is actually blue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayneard3413 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 We run 9mm sims in ours and they all have the blue barrel and bolt.. I think it is just a 9mil thing to make sure some idiot doesn't try and go on a callout with a sim barrel or bolt in place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Fatal: No training with SIM, so request granted.  my bit to add though   Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atomicaardvark Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I heard some good thing about G-Code too, but seen it only on SFG, I never noticed one on AF SF Can you post the pic you talk about AtomicAaardvark? No probs, found these three (all taken at the same training exercise I think): Â Â Â Â Judging by the blue magpuls on some of the mags visible I'd hazard a guess and say that this is the same training exercise as the pic I previously posted which created all the debate over simunitions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Okay, thanks, I know those pics and never noticed the g-code.... Â The first two pics are from the same exercice , but the third is not (Angel thunder '07) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atomicaardvark Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Okay, thanks, I know those pics and never noticed the g-code.... You'll never believe it but I was the same, after I mentioned the G-Code the other day I was taking a look through the PJ folder on my HD and suddenly started to spot them in use. Â Â The first two pics are from the same exercice , but the third is not (Angel thunder '07) After I'd posted that bit I realised that there might be an odd one out. Internet cookie goes to matfar . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zarda999 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009  I have refs if you guys want to see.  WC BDUs SLAND 1961a Protec MULE w\SATCOMM antenna  Full list on request.   WIP will eventually be a SEAL CQC but right now it looks like a PJ kit according to a buddy.   -Ryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Hmm... Seems plausible enough, however I haven't ever seen a 1961a in use by a PJ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siygess Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 *lol* It looks cool.. and let's face it, that's all that really matters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starburst Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 No probs, found these three (all taken at the same training exercise I think):Â [pic] Â [pic] Â [pic] Â Judging by the blue magpuls on some of the mags visible I'd hazard a guess and say that this is the same training exercise as the pic I previously posted which created all the debate over simunitions. Â Tempted to do something like this, only time Ive worn my tri des was with a black BHI Omega vest....need khaki gear, or is it coyote brown really can never tell under different light :S lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atomicaardvark Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Tempted to do something like this, only time Ive worn my tri des was with a black BHI Omega vest....need khaki gear, or is it coyote brown really can never tell under different light :S lol It's Paraclete Coyote Brown in the pics I posted, although PJs also use Eagle MJK and I've got pics of a coupe of PJs with what looks a lot like Blackhawk! Coyote Tan hydration pouches mounted on the rear of their Paraclete HPC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I've got pics of a coupe of PJs with what looks a lot like Blackhawk! Coyote Tan hydration pouches mounted on the rear of their Paraclete HPC. Not impossible, some USAF SOF are using blackhawk! stuffs, especially STS, seen sometimes with STRIKES CRCH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
asniperkill Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Hmm... Seems plausible enough, however I haven't ever seen a 1961a in use by a PJ. Â Â Its not on their website...i think. Â But im 99% sure LBT makes a PJ version of the 1961. I would agree with you though, plausible they use a 1961a. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 But im 99% sure LBT makes a PJ version of the 1961. You mean a "medic" version? Or really a PJ one? Â Never seen a LBT rig on PJs, even LBT in general. Except one 6094. Â @zarda999 : reminds me STS on training more than PJ, but the 1961 seams a bit out of place. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheLair Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Well, if it helps any, my LBT 1961 tag reads: "CHEST, VEST, AF STYLE" Â I would assume AF stands for Air Force Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 You mean a "medic" version? Or really a PJ one? Never seen a LBT rig on PJs, even LBT in general. Except one 6094.  @zarda999 : reminds me STS on training more than PJ, but the 1961 seams a bit out of place.  Ain't this a LBT Split front Chest Rig (1879?) IDK, I'm bad with LBT rigs.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 (edited) Well, it seems like we have two exemples of LBT in use by PJs  Well, if it helps any, my LBT 1961 tag reads: "CHEST, VEST, AF STYLE" I would assume AF stands for Air Force Do you have any pics to compare with standart 1961, please? Edited March 14, 2009 by matfar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zarda999 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 (edited) Â Far left. Â Â Â EDIT: Updated weapon and First line. Â -Ryan Edited March 14, 2009 by zarda999 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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