thirteen/autumns Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 How often are RAV's seen on PJ's or just AFSOC in general? RAVs are seen just as much as any other vest. I couldn't even begin to tell you the types of vests that are in our equipment cages. By the way... I am a current PJ trainee, not a "J" yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mysl1 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) IIRC AFSOC's use two kind of o RAV's. Normal paraclete RAV and custom AF RAV which is lighter. it`s made of 600 cordura, the back has no zip-off part and no molle Hope this helps Edited July 24, 2009 by mysl1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 So... is RG kocher for a PJ/AFSOC/TACP/Whatever loadout? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mysl1 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Wasn't RG ranger only? Don't mix RG with paraclete Smoke Green. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 don't worry, my precious RG is far too purty for doing that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Wasn't RG ranger only? And Swicks + some Civil Affairs/Psyops soldiers too. And no sorry, it's not kocher for usaf sof loadout, Paraclete SG is (RAV/HPC). @thirteen/autumns : Good luck, never quit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DUBOIS Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Could this qualify for a PJ/CRO Impression? I'd like some suggestions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
binarypunisher Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Wasn't RG ranger only? Don't mix RG with paraclete Smoke Green. Wasnt there some pics of DBT RG in use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thirteen/autumns Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Could this qualify for a PJ/CRO Impression? I'd like some suggestions. You actually have a pretty good representation of what we trainees wear for PJU. You have a little too many magazines but you are forgetting the most important part of a typical PJ loadout... The medical supplies! From the pictures that I have been looking at most of you guys are forgetting about the medical aspect of the job... That is our job. We don't kick down doors and hardly use our weapons. Medical Medical Medical. If you have any questions about what medical equipment we use I can give you an exact list of what an "average J" would carry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
binarypunisher Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Please do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-MOOSE- Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Yup, add medical equipment and some more accessories on your lid, like a strobe or flashlight or something. I'm no expert but that is what I see in pics all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kraut Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 You actually have a pretty good representation of what we trainees wear for PJU. You have a little too many magazines but you are forgetting the most important part of a typical PJ loadout... The medical supplies! From the pictures that I have been looking at most of you guys are forgetting about the medical aspect of the job... That is our job. We don't kick down doors and hardly use our weapons. Medical Medical Medical. If you have any questions about what medical equipment we use I can give you an exact list of what an "average J" would carry. Are you going through training right now or have you completed tech school? As detailed a list of all equipment as possible would be great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mysl1 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 DUBOIS...In the future, try to take your photos somewhere else with a help of a friend than taking mirrorphotos in your bathroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 IIRC AFSOC's use two kind of o RAV's. Normal paraclete RAV and custom AF RAV which is lighter. Hope this helps Giggidy. My next rig will probably be a (sadly) Pantac RAV in "SG", with all Paraclete pouches. How many mags are usually carried thirteen/autumns? I'm thinking 7 up front, 3 pistol mags, and two frags up front, 'FAK on the left C-Bund, horizontal util on the right c-bund, comms on the rear left, next to a hydro. I'm debating on running the pistol on the chest of the RAV, or on a drop leg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-MOOSE- Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Put the comms on the front, if you need to adjust anything on the radio, you wont break your arms trying to reach it or have to take your vest off. There is nothing sad about the PANTAC RAV dude I want one for myself, actually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thirteen/autumns Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 (edited) Right now I am currently in the pipeline and at the Paramedic phase at Kirtland AFB. As far as the loadout for medical supplies I will post some pictures up tonight with a detailed list. This kit list is what we trainees carry during PJU and Paramedic so obviously it's not going to be the same as per say a operational J, but it will give you a REALLY GOOD basis. As far as the vest loadout we carry only 6 magazines and no side arm magazines. Operational Js though do carry side arms and I have yet to see one of my cadre or any of the pictures in the school house have them on their vest. They are almost always on a drop-leg platform. Again I will post some pictures of what we look like including the vest. Oh and communication equipment is never put on the back of a vest, and I have yet to see a J carry any frags. We do train with them but never have I seen any on a vest, or on a J in general. We have our security force for that... Basically covering our butts while we work and transport the patient(s). Edited July 26, 2009 by thirteen/autumns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-MOOSE- Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Thanks, T/A! That would be really helpful for everyone! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thirteen/autumns Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 There is the medical ruck supplies that we carry around. This is only the equipment that we carry in our ruck, we also carry medical supplies on our vest like a surgical pouch, TK belts, trauma sheers, etc. Stuff that is not shown would be stuff like Epinephrine, isotonic .9% saline solution (IV), various cardiac drugs like Lidocaine, oxygen, I am sure you get the idea. An actual operational J medical ruck would be a little more extensive with the medical equipment but like I said before this is a really good basis to start on. I will have the pictures of the junior PJU team up later today to show our personal loadouts. I will start with the top row moving right... wire latter splints portable suction device cervical collar IV start kits (IV admin. set, alcohol pads, Penrose drain, 14 16 18 gauge IV catheter, 4x4s sterile, Opsite) poleless litter Sam Splints Ziplock bags trauma sheers bp cuff stethoscope combat glasses gauze sponges (4x4s and 2x2s) standard bandaids adult BVM with pocket mask shitload of Kerlex Petroleum gauze shitload of different bandages/compression wraps/cravats penlights surgical tape (1", 2", 3") space blanket TK belts 21 23 25 gauge hypo. needles KTD "sharps" container OPAs NPAs 10cc syringe 5cc syringe Laryngoscope handle/blade ET tubes with styletts gloves patient treatment cards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 13Autumns: thank you very much for your contribution here and your service. We all hope that you keep posting info and pics in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bez Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Anyone know where i can read-up some more on pararescue/pararescue jumpers personnel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thirteen/autumns Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Anyone know where i can read-up some more on pararescue/pararescue jumpers personnel? What do you mean by "personnel?" Like actually PJ operators or just Pararescue in general? There is pararescue.com specialoperations.com specialtactics.com afsoc.af.mil Those are some pretty good websites with pretty recent information. Otherwise I am always more than happy to answer questions... If I know them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bez Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 What do you mean by "personnel?" Like actually PJ operators or just Pararescue in general? There is pararescue.com specialoperations.com specialtactics.com afsoc.af.mil Those are some pretty good websites with pretty recent information. Otherwise I am always more than happy to answer questions... If I know them. Has anyone written any books about PJ and Pararescue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Berry Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) My USAFSOC rig in progress... an LBT-style split rig over/strapped onto an RBM-R plate carrier. Previous owner of the armour got it off a parajumper but not sure whether to go for a PJ-specific kit or a USAFSOC loadout with a bit more leeway... suggestions? Having this over raid-cut DCUS (on the way) with mechanix skeleton gloves and at the moment using an LR300 since its my only primary. Dave so thats where my vest went to .....nice kevin Edited July 31, 2009 by Kevin Berry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Tis a lovely vest Kevin, thanks. My mate spotted it for me on ASC That chest rig is a bit of a PITA though, skirmished it on sunday and its almost impossible to do a fast reload from the mag pouches. Not sure how to fix the issue :S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J-Rock_14 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 I've got Air Force issue DCUs with TSgt ranks, and anAir Force nametape still attached to the blouse. I've also got a tan Air Force PASGT that a Fire Fighter in the Air Force gave me. I've got all the little bits and pieces of the gear, MINUS an M4 or any sort of plate carrier. So close, yet so far. :[ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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