thirteen/autumns Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) @atomicaardvark Those pictures are of aerial gunners... But otherwise still nice pictures of some of the gear that they would wear, they could be Js though because our mission statement says that we are aerial gunners on fixed and rotary wing aircraft! Oh and by the way if you guys need any good pictures of Js I have tons of them! So just give me a specific and I can through some on here. Edited August 4, 2009 by thirteen/autumns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly15 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 He was just saying the rig is familiar from seeing those pictures. And so this isn't a totally useless post Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CoolHeart_ASN Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Hi guys! I´ve got one question. It´s a MBSS + PACA khoser for an AFSOC loadout? I know it´s probably no, but I want to confirm it. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gbiscuit Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Not really. Something like an RRV would be better, there are a few pics of them in use floating around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 MBSS is not, but if you want something similar, you can take Blackhawk! plate carrier, some PJ's/CCT used to wear it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crocodilo Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Why so anal-retentive about ranks? Not a SINGLE soldier I know has a problem with it. They actually encourage the fact that I keep my uniforms to the same regulations that they do, ESPECIALLY when they give me a set. Believe me, I have friends in the ANG, Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force. If any of them had a problem with it, I'd stop wearing ranks on my uniforms. Until then, they're staying were they are. Pure WIN, Sir !!!! As for uniforms i wish they had ABU combat shirts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zarda999 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I was in a surplus store near Bragg. There was a TACP in there who was dropping off a metric *fruitcage*ton of gear. He was conventional but he had a couple army combat shirt and one custom made ABU top. Simple mod the sleeves cut off and added to an FG t-shirt. -Ryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Why so anal-retentive about ranks? Not a SINGLE soldier I know has a problem with it. They actually encourage the fact that I keep my uniforms to the same regulations that they do, ESPECIALLY when they give me a set. Believe me, I have friends in the ANG, Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force. If any of them had a problem with it, I'd stop wearing ranks on my uniforms. Until then, they're staying were they are. I think it's just a matter of personal preference, it has very little to do with what actual servicemen feel. Maybe it really doesn't matter during an airsoft skirmish, I just don't feel wearing rank when you didn't put time into earning it is appropriate. Something like, you shouldn't falsely advertise degrees you don't have on resumes. Not wearing a rank also makes you feel less like a child for playing soldier. That's just my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J-Rock_14 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Airsoft more-or-less based around 'playing soldier?' And Like I said, I do not alter the uniforms my friends give me in any way, aside from removing the nametape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zarda999 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 That old afsoc vest from the 2001 picture.... Front Mag pouches are left to right Single mag, Triple mag (2 pistol mags on the outside), Double mag (With compass pouch. A strobe wont fit.), and finally another Triple mag. Pouches open. Tag.. is that oldschool BHI? -Ryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gbiscuit Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Nice find Zarda. Certainly is old school BHI. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
binarypunisher Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Very cool find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
medic23 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 there are abu combat shirts, bout 3 months back some af tacp's we gave a lift to had them on, made by massif. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thirteen/autumns Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 MBSS is not, but if you want something similar, you can take Blackhawk! plate carrier, some PJ's/CCT used to wear it. Sorry MATFAR but you are incorrect. I have seen PJ trainees wearing that type of plate carrier along with instructors having them in their kit lockers. What you guys need to understand about different types of gear is that there is by NO MEANS ANY STANDARD. Under AFSOC and ACC PJ/CCT/SOFTACP/combat weathermen are allowed to wear any gear they deem necessary. Different units have different gear... It's mostly up to the specific unit that you are assigned, of course AFSOC and ACC do specify certain items but when it comes to Js in specific it's pretty much up to the unit and operator. Any questions holla! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zarda999 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Combat weathermen.... I just could not help myself... Also far left. That is my chest rig. -Ryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Kinnaird Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Tag.. is that oldschool BHI? -Ryan That tag isnt old-school BHI, but certainly older BHI. I have a raptor pack from about 2001, and it has a similar label. Does it say "Made in Korea" on it? That combat weatherman's MarCIRAS is oddly familiar... strange... Edited August 7, 2009 by Sgt. Kinnaird Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CoolHeart_ASN Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Sorry MATFAR but you are incorrect. I have seen PJ trainees wearing that type of plate carrier along with instructors having them in their kit lockers. What you guys need to understand about different types of gear is that there is by NO MEANS ANY STANDARD. Under AFSOC and ACC PJ/CCT/SOFTACP/combat weathermen are allowed to wear any gear they deem necessary. Different units have different gear... It's mostly up to the specific unit that you are assigned, of course AFSOC and ACC do specify certain items but when it comes to Js in specific it's pretty much up to the unit and operator. Any questions holla! Holly...!! i don´t remembered it, but i have somo photos of afsoc operators (maybe pj´s) wearing MBSS on MC. Regards thirteen! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) What you guys need to understand about different types of gear is that there is by NO MEANS ANY STANDARD. Under AFSOC and ACC PJ/CCT/SOFTACP/combat weathermen are allowed to wear any gear they deem necessary. Different units have different gear... It's mostly up to the specific unit that you are assigned, of course AFSOC and ACC do specify certain items but when it comes to Js in specific it's pretty much up to the unit and operator. Any questions holla! I totally agree with you on that part (even if Js (as you call them) turning to use more and more LBT-6094), we've seen so many different plate carriers or body armors or chest rig or wathever, that the list will be soooo long. But not for the first part about BHI Plate Carrier, as we can see two of it in the last photoshoot of 64th ERQS in Iraq (with Crye AC sand uniforms) : I agree that is very rare (it's have been used by many CCT though, like BH! CRCH), but I just adviced Coolheart about something really similar as the MBSS, as he wished. @Coolheart : You surely speak about CCT, like I've just said, they used (and surely still use) many BHI stuffs, the whole thing over multicam since 2006. Edited August 7, 2009 by matfar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PynkPanthyr Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Just saw this on youtube: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themonkeyfromoutbreak Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Please excuse my bulge and if me wearing Pararescue patches offends you. Tried to get some in game photos while I was wearing it but I was enjoying myself too much in game. First aid kit is on left side of rig with EMT shears, markers & cascards. I posted earlier that I was worried about a drop-leg holster interfering with the harness & that I was thinking of running a belt holster, well during the game I was wearing a 6004 and worked a dream. Any suggestions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) Ditch the drop leg. Have an headset (ComTac I, II, Liberator I, MRCS, Sordin Supreme 3+), that MICH NVG mount is not used a lot, more accurate to get Norotos 3 holes with straps and assembly kit, or ANVIS, or Wilcox for something more recent. Is it an Eagle PC, or a BHI one? Cause I never seen EPC on a PJ. Edited August 17, 2009 by matfar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thirteen/autumns Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) Please excuse my bulge and if me wearing Pararescue patches offends you. Tried to get some in game photos while I was wearing it but I was enjoying myself too much in game. First aid kit is on left side of rig with EMT shears, markers & cascards. I posted earlier that I was worried about a drop-leg holster interfering with the harness & that I was thinking of running a belt holster, well during the game I was wearing a 6004 and worked a dream. Any suggestions? Hey man not bad... As far as the patches they don't really offend me to much. Most Js wont wear a Pararescue flash in real time operations, the black PJ one though is what I see most of my cadre wearing. Js bring ALOT more medical supplies into the field (rucksack) that a first aid kit could ever wish to carry. Kits like the one you probably have are more for first line supplies. That being stuff for airway/breathing like laryngoscope handle/blades, ET tube, and a 10 blade for "crics." Also bandages/cravats/occlusive dressing for immediate bleeding situations. Basically stuff that needs interventions right away before patient assessment/transport. Almost all Js use a drop-leg holster for their pistol and it wont interfer with a repelling harness. Usually we don't have a lot of room on our vests for a pistol and it just gets in the way when it's used on our hip because of our constant low position and movement around the patient. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask... I am a Pararescue trainee currently at Kirtland AFB and am here to help any airsofters out. I have plenty of pictures also so if you need something I most likely have the CORRECT information. Also I talked to acouple of fellow trainees and they don't really like the idea of people wearing the Pararescue flash that haven't earned it. It took a lot to get us here and the attrition rate of our school proves it and we haven't even graduated yet, also a lot of Js have given their lives "so others may live" and it means a lot to us. I would say as long as you respect the flash and what it stands for... It's cool with me! Edited August 18, 2009 by thirteen/autumns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thirteen/autumns Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Ditch the drop leg. Have an headset (ComTac I, II, Liberator I, MRCS, Sordin Supreme 3+), that MICH NVG mount is not used a lot, more accurate to get Norotos 3 holes with straps and assembly kit, or ANVIS, or Wilcox for something more recent. Is it an Eagle PC, or a BHI one? Cause I never seen EPC on a PJ. We do use drop leg platforms for some stuff but not too often. We try to stay mobile and drop-legs on both legs tends to get in the way. If it is a drop-leg platform it will almost always be for additional medical equipment for triage situations. The com. gear that we use are MBITRs and as for the headset I am unsure at this time because I haven't gotten to use them yet. Eagle PCs are used and quite often although at PJU we use Paraclete. Again any questions or want pictures don't hesitate to ask! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matfar Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) Eagle PCs are used and quite often although at PJU we use Paraclete. Do you have any pic of a PJ wearing Eagle PC? For the headset, I've seen almost all of the existing headsets, but nowadays there is much more ComTac and Sordin stuffs, or maybe the new Socom-X headset, seen on JTAC too. Edited August 18, 2009 by matfar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thirteen/autumns Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Do you have any pic of a PJ wearing Eagle PC? I looked and I didn't find any that I can pick out... Most of my pictures are of training and what we use are Paraclete. I can not take pictures of my cadre because some are still active/reserve/guard, but I know that I have seen the Eagle name on some vests. I will see if I can snag acouple of pictures for you sometime this week! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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