AF SOF - TACP, PJ, EOD

[Grantfallen]

I've seen a recent picture of a TACP wearing the ABU underarmour top, I think that the top looks boss.

I really like the look of the ABU camo purely from a design perspective, I didn't know that they existed until last week.

 

It got me thinking about picking up a set of them if I can find that top.

[Jolly15]

I just thought I'd put it in since Crye MC could go with your 75th impression too. The combat shirt is cool too, never seen one.

[Pkekyo-Nor]

I'm getting a gen2 CPCU as well eventually.

But I like the ABU pattern for some obscure reason, and figured a PJ-inspired loadout would give me the excuse I needed

[Kanian]

The ABU combat shirt? Fat *fruitcage* chance that is ok'd in garrison. I would have been on that like a fat kid on cake. I don't even know where to find them.

 

HA! Same here, I hate wearing my ABUs at work.

 

And to answer Hunk a bit, yes they are combat approved, sadly even the normal ABU is as well. And I have seen them on sale on US CAV for like 200 or so bucks.

[Deltacor]

Would an OD RAV work for a PJ loadout?

[atomicaardvark]

Would an OD RAV work for a PJ loadout?

Not really, tan would probably be better; and it wouldn't be a PJ loadout then, but rather a CRO loadout as they 'tended' to wear RAVs from what I recall.

[matfar]

CRO are issuing the same gear as their fellow PJs since they are in the same squadrons.

[Nasty_TheYankWelshOne]

Can't find it, but I remember reading a memo from August that says all Airmen, including AFSOC, are expected to be in ABU, except when attached to units from other branches. Don't quote me on that, though, cause I can't find it.

 

That said, I think ABU is a pretty nice looking pattern. I made mine slightly more comfortable. Can't wear them at work, but whatever.

 

 

As far as gear goes, I've usually seen Eagle Plate Carriers with Cummerbunds and Eagle Assault Plate Carriers used. Now that I'm finished with my Army Ranger kit, I'm going to start a CCT one using an EAPC in khaki.

Edited October 7, 2010 by Nasty_TheYankWelshOne

[Kanian]

Dang dude, that actually looks.............GOOD! It actually looks like a "battle" uniform, send that pic to the uniform board and maybe they might get the new versions coming out to be cut like that. And actually I believe i remember readin abaout a bit in the ABU instructions that local command take precedence when it comes to modification, so if you get you commander to ok then, then you could wear it to work.

[Nasty_TheYankWelshOne]

Dang dude, that actually looks.............GOOD! It actually looks like a "battle" uniform, send that pic to the uniform board and maybe they might get the new versions coming out to be cut like that. And actually I believe i remember readin abaout a bit in the ABU instructions that local command take precedence when it comes to modification, so if you get you commander to ok then, then you could wear it to work.

 

Thanks man.

 

I think the new Airman Battle System-Ground is supposed to be more similar the ACU, or at least a combat uniform. I'm pretty sure my squadron can wear this outside the wire, and several people did it during the deployment to Iraq (we're Security Forces). I might send it to the uniform board. Chances are nothing will come of it, but oh well. Since they're seeing that the ABU isn't the best combat uniform, hopefully they'll keep doing revisions until we have something to use in the Middle East that isn't winter weight.

 

Full CCT impression coming in a couple weeks, though

[echodafish]

Commanders can only make the regs more strict, not ok uniform modifications.

[Nasty_TheYankWelshOne]

Commanders can only make the regs more strict, not ok uniform modifications.

 

Dunno what to tell you, but we were authorized to modify our ABUs like that and wear them outside the wire ONLY. Of course, most of the guys weren't even wearing blouses, because we weren't allowed to get the FR ones...

[echodafish]

Outside the witre is a fantasy land where normal rules are easily distorted.

 

Your comment confuses me. If you weren't wearing your blouses what were you wearing? What were you doing outside the wire that you weren't allowed to get the FR tops?

[Nasty_TheYankWelshOne]

Outside the witre is a fantasy land where normal rules are easily distorted.

 

Your comment confuses me. If you weren't wearing your blouses what were you wearing? What were you doing outside the wire that you weren't allowed to get the FR tops?

 

Most of the guys were just wearing the desert tan undershirts with ABU trousers. The guys that were wearing blouses modified theirs. And you're right about outside the wire, hence why I said regular, un-modified ABU blouses were worn at other times. We're allowed to get the FR tops now, but last year we weren't authorized to yet. I think we got authorized to at the very tail end of the deployment.

 

Regardless, I only wear that blouse airsofting, and I just chucked it up here because I thought the work was pretty well done on it.

[echodafish]

It certainly looks good dude, no arguement there. I have done the same with one of mine. The stuff you said about your deployment just threw me off since I didn't understand that you were saying you just skipped the blouses all together. I thought FR of some sorts was mandatory outside the wire.

[Nasty_TheYankWelshOne]

It certainly looks good dude, no arguement there. I have done the same with one of mine. The stuff you said about your deployment just threw me off since I didn't understand that you were saying you just skipped the blouses all together. I thought FR of some sorts was mandatory outside the wire.

 

It is now, but for some reason (don't ask me, it's out of my pay grade), only EOD guys and a couple other jobs were given FR blouses.

 

Yes, it's idiotic, but so is issuing a winter weight uniform to troops in Iraq, so......yeah.

 

 

Next project; Making Crye-like ABU trousers

Edited October 10, 2010 by Nasty_TheYankWelshOne

[Kanian]

Commanders can only make the regs more strict, not ok uniform modifications.

 

I know that my commander OK'd velcroing the cargo pockets, which I plan to do sometime next week.

[Eizen]

 

Moar later..

[thirteen/autumns]

Eizen... Some of that gear looks familiar! Looking good. Three questions though...

 

What do you keep in those four pouches near the top of your plate carrier? The one with the IR flag on it

 

 

What is the black electrical tape for?

 

 

And what is that white thing in front of your magazine?

 

Sorry if they seem stupid, I was just wondering!

[SinfulSaint]

Spiffy Eizen!

 

What gloves are you wearing? Than Mechanix or what?

[Pkekyo-Nor]

Eizen:

 

Looks really good. Not a fan of the army of pistol mag pouches you're carrying, but each to his own.

 

thirteen/autumns:

 

They are pistol pouches, and all seem to carry pistol mags or an arseload of multitools, the white thing in front of his rifle mags looks like a chemlight sticking out of the pistol pouch, and electrical tape is just nice to have.

[Eizen]

Pararescue impression, like 2008-2009 @Afganistan

 

http://www.visualintel.net/USAF/People/Pararescue-PJ/7149569_4JVSF#458731240_rXhAy

 

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?1365-Some-new-Pararescue-photos

 

Also Michael Yon's "Pedros" - great source

 

Due to lack of blackhawks we're just patrolling around. The pics with "patient" are highly unrealistic, but we just wanted to show off the medical gear. We have zero education on medical gear, so we wanted to keep that in limit.

 

 

 

All pics high resolution here http://www.flickr.com/photos/27321553@N07/sets/72157624496958381/with/5067081063/

 

 

©Samppa Kujansuu

 

Kitlists

 

Eizen

AFSOC PC

- ATS double shingle

- Paraclete small utility

- Paraclete triple shingle w/9mm.

- Paraclete pistol quad

- Mayflower MBITR

- TT utility

Duty belt w/safety lanyard

Blackhawk 60MP00DE

TC-2001 w/MS2000 *

Comtac 2*

Merrel MOAB Mid GTX

Mechanix gloves

Arc'tyrex kneecaps

3-col

stuff

 

 

kalamies

LBT 6094A

- TT Triple Shingle MC

- TT Triple Mag Pouch MC

- TT Small Utility Pouch

- 2x EI 9mm

TT First Responder Bag

TT E&E Pouch

LBT 1562A

Gentex ACH 2000 & MS-2000M

Oakley SI gloves

Merrell Moab Mid GTX

ESS LandOps

Alta Superflex

3-col

Comtac2*

Stuff..

 

Also your questions:

In the quad pistol pouches I have a multitool, flashlight and pens, one pouch is empty. The triple shingle will have 2 M9 mags in future, _if_ I decide to purchase one (I love my G19). Electrical tape is indeed a "nice-to-have" -item. If I am not using it, someone wants to borrow it. White things are indeed chemlights.

 

Gloves are generic Mechanix M-pact ones.

 

Pkekyo-Nor: That's how I roll. I'm not a fan of admin pouches. With quad it's much more simple to find what you are looking for.

 

Also, pics in Multicam in future!

[thirteen/autumns]

Eizen... I like the pictures. Sorry I have not been on here in awhile, I actually got into some trouble for posting pictures on here so yeah :/ If you ever need some information on medical protocols or anything let me know. I can tell because your partner is putting on a c-collar with no litter in sight LOL. I like the impressions none the less!

 

Oh yeah and NEVER lose control of your weapon! You partner put it on the ground , keep it slung! Just some helpful hints

Edited October 10, 2010 by thirteen/autumns

[Eizen]

Sorry to hear that.

 

You shouldn't have mentioned the lack of litter.. . Now everyone knows it! and about the weapon, so did I eventually . Thanks for the feedback

Edited October 10, 2010 by Eizen

[The Crunchy Bunny]

Those look really great Eizen.They look pretty legit to.