MrJustice Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 This is a general warning and doesn't relate to any specific deal or persons other than Neil Potter. This guy keeps resurfacing so watch out when doing deals! He’s been known to use aliases instead of his real name and have things shipped to Cornwall instead of his home address in the Isle of Man (Victoria Street, Douglas). He lies about the condition of items claiming them to be “mint condition” or “in excellent condition” when they’re not In most cases he’ll take your money and not ship out the items to you. You’ll need to constantly complain and harass him to get your items or money refunded. It seems he tries to wear you down so you’ll give up and write your money off. His typical MO is that he’ll make a new account and then post up several threads of items for sale, these will be bargain prices and or have lots of accessories making it appear a very tasty deal. In most cases he won’t post up pictures. He has already been banned on more than several occasions from ArniesAirsoft and ASCUK! I had the misfortune to deal with this guy a while ago and I seen that he’s been up to the same old tricks again. I'll be watching out for Neil and if he ever comes back I'll up post up his alias here. Feel free to discredit the above information but before you do check out the following information dug up about Neil Potter: Identified Alaises of Neil Potter: LordofWar, Bioh@z@rd, Stampman007, Farcry101, Bioxk, oldtogold, guns4me, manxwargames, stevemanic, wademan, mxk2000, badboyz, ironfootman, underworld, lovjoy, MMbiohazard, **BaDbOyZ** Also reported to have used "susan potter", "sue potter", "Phil Potter", "A.T Potter", "mike", "Ian" Data from: ArniesAirsoft.co.uk Airsoftcommunity.co.uk (has some data missing/not available) Oldest Date 2nd July 2004 Ironfoot.co.uk (has over a years worth of data missing) manxairsoftclub.co.uk zeroin.co.uk History of Trades (mainly sales (partial. not all data reported)): 2007 Apr 4th, LordOfWar: selling 2xMP7s and an SR-25 = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=103723 = Result:: = SR-25: sold to "Myroslav", Bad trade, thread created: = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=106081 = = = Refund cheque was sent then cancelled by LordOfWar, "Myroslav" has contacted the police etc = = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1339412 = MP7s; sold to "you can`t shoot me", bad trade: = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1314173 = = MP7s finally arrive (May 10th) but are missing the lasers they were meant to come with: = = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1322615 2007 Apr 5th, LordOfWar: selling AK47 = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=103864 = Result:: nothing happens as he doesn't respond to questions 2007 Mar 3rd, LordOfWar: wanting to buy Warhammer stuff = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=100256 = Result:: exchange with "christoff hitler", it goes bad, bad seller thread created for lordofwar; = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=105706 = "Cons" swaps Warhammer stuff +£50 for a WA Inifinity, after a lot of chasing and being ignored "Cons" gets his gun nearly 2 months later: = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1330004 2007 Feb 5th, LordOfWar: selling M249 = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=96952 = Result:: sold to "Marissa" semi-bad deal (was resolved), guy didn't get the batteries at first, only after creating this thread did he get them: = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=104950 2006 Dec 8th, BIOHAZARD: selling TM AUG, TM MP5PDW, TM MP7, TM M203, Maushin Super enforcer, MR93 AEP, SL9 (TM G36c Based) + mags etc = http://www.ironfoot.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=795.0 = Result:: no sales, a forum regular alerts everyone 2006 Oct 20th, FarCry101: selling ICS MP5SD = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=83886 = Result:: Bad Trade, sold to danny_boy200 gun arrives broken but gets 50% refunded = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...6entry1105366 2006 Oct 20th, FarCry101: selling AK midcaps = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=83888 = Result:: nothing appears to happen 2006 Oct 3rd, bioxk: selling TM Desert Eagle, TM Colt Python, Maurshin Super Enforcer, TM MP5A4. ICS MP5SD later goes up for sale = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...topic=81695&hl= = Result:: = MP5, successfully sold to "mightyjebus" = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1038815 = Python sold to "Sherlock"? Rest not sold 2006 Sep 16th, bioxk: selling TM M4 = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/in0d...showtopic=79512 = Result:: Bad trade, sold to "montymat" = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...6entry1042076 2006 Sep 16th, bioxk: selling TM M16+ TM M203; = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...topic=79526&hl= = Result:: Bad trade, sold to "cheesem" = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...opic=85452&st=0 = = it works out as some nice guy called Stampman007 steps in and gets the guy his refund: = = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1076149 2006 Sep 14th, Stampman007: selling SPAS 12 = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=79209 = Result:: people coming into the thread discussing past (bad) dealings, not clear if the SPAS was sold 2006 Sep 14th, Stampman007: selling P90TR = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=79205 = Result:: sold the same item to 2 people. Both got their money back much later on, though this is not confirmed by Neotexx. = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...&hl=Stampman007 = = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1056798 2006 Sep 14th, Stampman007: selling M60 SEALs = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=79204 = Result:: nothing concrete (successful sale?), intestingly claims to be in "cornwall" later in the thread 2006 Sep 14th, Stampman007: selling APS2 = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=79224 = Result:: thread closed and post edited by a mod as the gun breaks the FPS forum rules 2006 Sep 8th, manxwargames: selling SR-25, which he bought off oldtogold (one of his aliases) = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=85047 = Result:: no apparent sale 2006 Sep 6th, Stampman007: selling SR-25, which he bought off oldtogold (one of his aliases) = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=78188 = Result:: nothing appears to happen 2006 Aug 3rd, oldtogold: selling "mint condition" P90TR = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...topic=81831&hl= = Result:: sold pending payment to "monkish44" 2006 Aug 3rd, oldtogold: selling TM G36c = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...4&st=0&p=776382 = Result:: sold to 2 people, "Klause" is refuned as is "chrishughes" who leaves a -1, got refunded without asking for it = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...ndpost&p=779010 2006 Aug 2nd, oldtogold: selling "mint condition" M249 = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=81730 = Result:: sold to FuZZ (successful?) 2006 Aug 2nd, oldtogold: "excellent condition" TM biohazard Samuri edge = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=81727 = Result:: bought by "potshot" who doesn't not recieve the gun 2006 Aug 2nd, oldtogold: selling "mint condition" TM Desert Eagle hardkick = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=81725 = Result:: not sold? 2006 Aug 2nd, oldtogold: selling "mint condition" spas 12 = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=81731 = Result:: sold to "Normski" who fails to recieve the gun but gets a refund = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...ndpost&p=785110 2006 Aug 2nd, oldtogold: "excellent condition" selling TM M9 = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...&st=0&p=775866& = Result:: sold to Wild_XIII, who leaves -1 due to false statement of "excellent condition". Two people pay for it, not clear if "Dargie" gets refunded = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...ation=12368&t=p = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...ndpost&p=779010 2006 Aug 2nd, oldtogold: selling TM M16 a2 with extras = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=81722 = Result:: bad trade, sold to "andreask", no gun, gets a refund after taking it to the small claims court = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...ndpost&p=835611 = = "oldtogold might not be a theif, but he's incompetent to the point of being criminal" 2006 Jul 25th, oldtogold: selling "mint condition" TM benelli m3 = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...7&st=0&p=770052 = Result:: sold to ArKile who leaves a -1 complaining about sub-standard goods = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...ation=12368&t=p = = bad trader thread: = = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=82100 2006 Jul 25th, oldtogold: selling maurzen m11 = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...6&st=0&p=770049 = Result:: sold to Gucci Gear who leaves a -1 complaining about sub-standard goods and not making good on the deal = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...ation=12368&t=p 2006 Jul 25th, oldtogold: selling TM Spetnaz in "pristine condition" = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...topic=80713&hl= = Result:: sold to "Sgt Craig" who doesn't recieve some items = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...ndpost&p=782098 2006 Jul 25th, oldtogold: "excellent condition" Western Arms Beretta M8045 Cougar = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=80818 = Result:: sold to "tinkerbell", gun doesn't work = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...ndpost&p=782586 2006 Jul 7th, oldtogold: selling "mint condition" TM benelli m3 = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=79902 = Result:: nothing appears to happen 2006 Jul 7, oldtogold: selling Mosqueto moulds mini launcher = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=79903 = Result:: "ajmedic" paypals money for it, successful sale? 2006 May 2nd: bioxk: selling G&P ris mounted Jungle series short m203 = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=74690 = Result:: successfully sold to "m.thumwood" 2006 Apr 28th, bioxk: TM M16A2 and extras = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...3&st=0&p=713739 = Result:: successfully sold to Elushion = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...eputation=11586 2006 Apr 25th, Stampman007: selling TM M4 = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=58758 = Result:: nothing appears to happen but the thread is locked for some reason 2006 Apr 26th, Stampman007: selling accessoires = http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=58813 = Result:: nothing appears to happen but the thread is locked for some reason 2005 Jan 7th, Wademan: selling kit for tsunami appeal = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=31398 (http://www.ironfoot.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=662.msg5231) = Result:: won by "K20", money sent. No indication to what happened. Mod posts that "wademan" has been banned = = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=31533 2004 Oct 11th, badboyz: selling Tanaka M24 War4Toys custom sniper rifle in "absolute mint condition" = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=24805 = Result:: user "badboyz" is banned before sale completed 2004 Aug 29th, badboyz: selling "mint condition" TM spas 12 = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=21658 = Result:: no sale? 2004 Nov 7th, Underworld: selling TM P90TR = http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=26861 = Result:: sold to "nea1e"? Apperance in Bad traders threads & dedicated threads: 2007 may 4, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1314173 2007 apr 30, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1307964 2007 apr 29, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...pic=106081&st=0 2007 apr 26, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=105706 2007 apr 17, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=104950 2007 feb 15, Thread: http://www.zeroin.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=130064 2007 feb 1, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1202079 2007 jan 31, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=96369 2006 dec 16, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1137723 2006 dec 9, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1127806 2006 dec 6, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1123547 2006 nov 24, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1105366 2006 nov 24, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1105606 2006 nov 19, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1098151 Guy mistakeningly posts in "good traders" complaining 2006 nov 10, Thread: http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=90404 (not a good idea to rip off a policeman!) 2006 nov 5, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...3entry1075933 2006 nov 5, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1055857 interesting! 2006 nov 1, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=85452 2006 oct 29, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1066160 2006 oct 29, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1065968 2006 oct 28, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1065163 2006 oct 28, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=84928 2006 oct 17, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1047099 2006 oct 14, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1042076 2006 oct 5, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...?showtopic=8206 2006 aug 7, Thread: http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=82100 2006 aug 4, Thread: http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=81871 2005 feb 1, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...369entry89369 2005 jan 24, Thread: http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=32904 2005 jan 8, Post: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...indpost&p=67958 2004 Dec 14, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...?showtopic=5268 2004 nov 5, Thread: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...?showtopic=3165 2004 oct 18, Thread: http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forums/i...showtopic=25250 Link to post Share on other sites
christoff hitler Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 blimey Link to post Share on other sites
Pyromaster Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Wow.......His history's bigger and worse than I thought..... kudos to MrJustice for creating this thread as it seems people need to be warned about this guy. Link to post Share on other sites
dannyboy Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 PM'd Arnie earlier, given he was quite active in the lordofwar thread, about maybe stickying this. Had dealings with him as oldtogold myself, never would have known it was the same guy. Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissyg Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Im going to pin this, but higher powered mods, feel free to remove. Given this guys history, which is enormous, I felt it was necessary to pin Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyMoFo Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 definatley worth speaking up about. i dealt with him under 'stampman007' and part exchanged my SL9 for a 'mint condition' spas 12 which was well... shagged... so i asked for a £60 addition to my paypal to compensate, and he did it, but a month or more later the people at paypal launched an investigation and took the money away, so i was £60 down... Link to post Share on other sites
Carrion Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 MM biohazzard http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...?showuser=30265 mods is there some way to look for his MSN address ashe always uses the centuray sounds one. as a contact method Link to post Share on other sites
creepingfear Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Ah Neil, I see you are reading this thread. Care to comment? Obviously not. Link to post Share on other sites
matthewryan2k Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 scary!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
joeking27 Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 I am going to lock this, because I can only see people flaming and any useful information being lost in a sea of indignation. edit: fancy that... Link to post Share on other sites
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