adiec Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Any of you guys preordered from Airsoft world? Check out update on their website. With luck, the waiting will soon be over!! I hope that the problems have been sorted out now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 As for the UGL, i've not heard of anyone fitting one to a G&G yet. Although i do wander how it fits the STAR. Perhaps someone with a lathe could knock up a new barrel, the same profile as the STAR one to allow the UGL to fit. Or maybe its more complicated than that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nickberry66 Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Any of you guys preordered from Airsoft world? Check out update on their website. With luck, the waiting will soon be over!! I hope that the problems have been sorted out now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â I have - they were having problems with their broadband connection this weekend, but they called me up to answer my query about arrival times rather than let me wait all weekend for a website update. Im more than happy with the service so far - I just cant wait for the thing to turn up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wobbly Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Still can't download the guide. I have updated to the latest Adobe reader and tried Mozila too all with no luck. I wonder if one of you kind gents could mail me a copy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warning Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) Still can't download the guide. I have updated to the latest Adobe reader and tried Mozila too all with no luck. I wonder if one of you kind gents could mail me a copy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â File: G_G_L85_guide.pdf File Size: 1.1mb (approx) Link: Click Here! Â you can download it from here, i uploaded to my box account so hopefully you can download it from here if needs be Edited August 7, 2007 by Coolz10uk2003 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wobbly Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Nice one that worked a treat. Thanks very much for your help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Regarding the questions about TM pistons, A TM piston fits perfectly into the G&G gun. Â I would have thought that if a TM piston was small enough to come off the guide rails of the R85 then the R85 piston/cylinder must be a good 3-4mm wider than a standard set up. Â Somebody care to (accurately) measure the width of their Army piston? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subb0 Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 I've got my replacement plate but the part on the plate that holds the spring (that pulls it back) does not fit i was hoping the new one would also have a new one of these so i'm using my old one I slide the spring part in an when it gets pulled back it jjust comes out (there is no little screw bit on top.. and ideas how i can fix or bodge this? this is really really annoying.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kristoffer Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Regarding the questions about TM pistons, A TM piston fits perfectly into the G&G gun. I would have thought that if a TM piston was small enough to come off the guide rails of the R85 then the R85 piston/cylinder must be a good 3-4mm wider than a standard set up.  Somebody care to (accurately) measure the width of their Army piston? <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Pic of TM piston in R85 shell:  http://home.lyse.net/kristoffer/Div%20bilder/IMG_2499.JPG  The R85 piston isn't much wider. It is able to move sideways, but not enough to make it slip of one of the guide-rails like the TM piston does. I'm considering making the gearbox guiderails a little wider, but I'm not quite sure how to do this.  The gearbox guiderails are 20.0 mm apart.  The R85 piston is 21.9 mm wide The Marui pistons (2x brand new) are both 21.7 mm wide  The difference between the TM and R85 piston is: from the bottom of the groove between the 2 piston guiderails, to the opposing guiderails: 19.9 mm while on the R85 piston, it measures 20.6 mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Oh how clever of them...... make a captive market for replacement piston  looks like everyone's been suXXored! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hustie Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Indeed, "your base am belong to Army.." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tiff_lee Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 I'm considering making the gearbox guiderails a little wider, but I'm not quite sure how to do this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Surely it would be easier to compare with other makes of piston first? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subb0 Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Any one have any ideas how I can fix my problem, The spring that pulls the plate with the cocking handle doesn't fit into the mold and thus doesn't pull back the handle. I think its meant to have a small screw in it but it never did have it. please help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 (edited) You could drill and tap small holes for small grub screws in the piston rails to keep it in the middle. Or ball bearings if you want to be hifi. Â Or go with Systema. Their pistons (full teeth, half-teeth, Ver6 with 2nd tooth removed, aluminum) measure from 21.96 to 22.36 mm depending on the model. The regular full teeth pistons were the most narrow at 21.96-21.98 mm, and the aluminum pistons were the widest at 22.36-22.38 mm. Â Could be that other brands have wider pistons as well. It takes more than that to get the market hooked on a single piston type. Â -Sale Edited August 8, 2007 by Sale Quote Link to post Share on other sites
powello Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 can anyone provide me with a link to a rail tht will switch with the one on the r85 so tht u can mount a star susat on it, ive bin looking everywhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ksk Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 (edited) can anyone provide me with a link to a rail tht will switch with the one on the r85 so tht u can mount a star susat on it, ive bin looking everywhere <{POST_SNAPBACK}>   Hi WGC Shop HK has Them For £18 Incl P+P to the UK Aprox 4 Days Army Code SA80 SUSAT Rail AC-ACC-S001 Edited August 9, 2007 by Ksk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrStrangelove Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I was originally really fired up for getting my army R85 to complete my brit loadout.... Â now i think ive had enough given the horror storys im seeing.... if the piston isnt standard width, the precocking causes problems, the build quality is questionable on the cocking handle, the selector gear needs changeing to goto 16tooth piston... and on top of that some dont feed properly i may as well can my order and buy annother Classic Army gun which although costs more it works first time everytime.... Â Seriously.. small problems i can live with but this looks like a catalogue of disasters. How have army screwed up this bad!!? Â thoughts pls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subb0 Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I'm still trying to get help with my springs not catching onto the blowback plate people seem to be ignoring my cries for help.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 can anyone provide me with a link to a rail tht will switch with the one on the r85 so tht u can mount a star susat on it, ive bin looking everywhere <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For at least the 3rd time in this thread:- YOU DON'T NEED IT. Â To fit the Star rail you'll need to remove the original one. If you remove the existing one you can file down the underside of the edges slightly. If you don't have the tools to file down the rail then you probably also don't have the tools to drill (and then file down) new holes in the receiver to suit the new rail. Â Remove the existing rail and file it. Â End of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warning Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 (edited) I'm still trying to get help with my springs not catching onto the blowback plate people seem to be ignoring my cries for help.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â File: G_G_L85_guide.pdf File Size: 1.1mb (approx) Link: Click Here! Â you can download it from here, i uploaded to my box account so hopefully you can download it from here if needs be <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â download that its a guide on how to make it more reliable and it goes throu how to disable blow back even though its for the g and g its still the same for the army Edited August 9, 2007 by Coolz10uk2003 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconfour4 Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 (edited) to fit the star susat you really only have to file off a tiny amount. all i did was file the coat of paint off and the susat slid straight on.  here is what mine looks like now. Star Susat, G & G L85A2 cocking handle, Star 130 round L85 magazine and a webtex sa80 sling     Edited August 9, 2007 by falconfour4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Looks good falconfour4 i might invest in a Star SUSAT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adam888888 Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 i got mine to day, i got hit with import tax and had to pay 22.20 GBP. i went to the parcel force depo and payed it there and picked the gun up aswell, i cant help but feel like i payed them to do a job that i then payed again to do myself  Everything feels rock solid from the huge amount of metal, iv used the real sa80 and i would say its 99% the same apart from the weight and trades. The cocking handle on mine is very solid and doesn't feel like its gona fall off. im very impresses with it so far, the finish is very nice and i feel its as good as farests review says it is.  the only problem iv had is the jing gong mags i purchased with it down lock in, iv tried bending the tabs up like it says in the OP to no avail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kristoffer Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 You could drill and tap small holes for small grub screws in the piston rails to keep it in the middle. Or ball bearings if you want to be hifi. Or go with Systema. Their pistons (full teeth, half-teeth, Ver6 with 2nd tooth removed, aluminum) measure from 21.96 to 22.36 mm depending on the model. The regular full teeth pistons were the most narrow at 21.96-21.98 mm, and the aluminum pistons were the widest at 22.36-22.38 mm.  Could be that other brands have wider pistons as well. It takes more than that to get the market hooked on a single piston type.  -Sale <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Weekend at last, and the first thing I did after work was to test a Systema Aluminum piston, and also an Area 1000 polycarbonate piston. Both were wider than the stock R85 and the TM piston. I installed the Area 1000 pc piston (I really hate the alu pistons), and will test it on sunday. But so far (2 mags) it looks promising.  You can point out many small faults, but I have to say, this is the best 120 dollars I have spent since I started with airsoft, and one of my favorite AEG's at this moment. Even the battery seems to work pretty well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freypal Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 the only problem iv had is the jing gong mags i purchased with it down lock in, iv tried bending the tabs up like it says in the OP to no avail. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Likewise, brought some CA mags off rolling-thunder (thanks mate!) and they work perfectly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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