trepidation Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 just got myself one of these just to be different. skirmished last week and was mildly impressed. needs sum work as evryone here knows but it will still works out cheaper than star,ics,gng. so thumbs up! cant wait to take it out again with upgrades Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yusanai Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 thanks for the pep talk, I just ordered mine off wgc, hopefully I'll be lucky and not get a lemon, regarding upgrades/spare parts, from what I managed to find out from G&G, I've asked them about the l85 so it's the same thing, google searches and the like, I've found out that the hop-up like any m16/m4 hop-up, the barrel is 500-ish mm, redwolf has the spacer upgrade w/wo the sector gear, G&G makes a reinforced piston head, they say that they make a reinforced piston G-10-056, this one, however the pic on the website looks like any other 16 teeth piston, the person I talked to, assured me that it will fit the weapon, the spring guide apparently is a ver.3 one though I'm not sure. If anyone wants to add something or to correct me please do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yusanai Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 (edited) Also, it's quite ironic that the fixes/upgrades cost more than the weapon. Edited June 16, 2008 by yusanai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teuton Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 so finally i have puchased brand new cylinder head for L85 from power upgrade it is very well machined. they produce teflon coated cylinders for this gun and air nozzle with double o ring. i have not tested this cylinder head yet but it extremly sturdy. Great news .. finally someone produces aftermarket upgrade parts for this beauty .. standard cylinder head is *suitcasey* plastic.. this one has double o rings and looking very good. I think power upgrade is finally shiping from czech republic also to other countries but i am not sure about that and teflon coated cylinder and air nozzle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apex Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I just picked one of these up from a buddy and I've read through the pages in this thread as well as googling info on it. How do you remove the lower gearbox from the body? I've 3 removed pins, seperated the upper from the lower and the screw at the back and it still doesn't release. It shoots fine, but I'd like to know how to get to it when problems arise. You have had a look at http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...st&id=25713 right ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwatMP5man Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Having chrono'ed my L85 at F&O last sunday (6th July) itwas firing at 240fps, pretty low considering thats it got an M100 fitted with an element piston and head. So i bought a new spring and relubed the piston head and chrono'd it this sunday only for it to be shooting 304fps, now having conferred with another owner of one of these, it seems that the cylinder is too wide for almost all standard piston heads. What im now looking to do is IIRC get a PSG1 cylinder as i was told its the same length but a standard bore, or buy the entire cylinder set from the czech website, even with language barrier(all emails are in czech). Sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hugh_b Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 (edited) Got another one today as i wanted a second gun. It chronoed at 350fps out of the box. All bb's were feeding fine using a 9.6v battery and ca mid-caps, changed to heavier .25 ammo and now it's started mis-feeding although it doesn't really do it with the heavier ammo and the original mag. I've read somewhere that the ca mid-caps were fine in this gun. Why could this be miss-feeding? Also, the gun seems to continue to fire in full auot for around 6-10 shots after you let off the trigger? I have searched but not found an answer. cheers-Hugh Edited July 17, 2008 by hugh_b Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Domz Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Never had or heard of that problem! Had it once on my ICS MP5 when the trigger block inside the mechbox was too tight and caught the contacts together and didn't let go, I'd have a look there if you understood any of what I just said... or send back and get them to do it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hugh_b Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 ok guy's, i've read through the topic and i've noticed a lot of people say the mag midcaps feed well. I also read the ca mid-caps worked well but mine do not. Who else uses the mag mid-caps and do you use sa80 specific versions? cheers-Hugh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
throttles Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I use both the mag mid caps and I have one Classic Army mid cap, both fit my R85 fine, and also the CA sportline with no modification and no problems. The only modification I have made is to fit a Systema hop unit and rubber, but they worked fine before and after modification. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferdiii Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 If you have low FPS with the new piston,If I were you, I´ll clean perfectly the piston head and then , I´ll lube it with a little silicone grease.A LITTLE only. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darrenjs92 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 is there something that goes in the handle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marlvass Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 anyone tried buying the upgraded version from airsoft scotland? is it worth the extra money? im new at airsoft and after reading this whole thread id like to check which solution is the best to prevent break downs on the aa r85 10x Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwatMP5man Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Well, i ordered a shedload of custom upgrade bits from powerupgrade.cz 7 weeks ago and they still haven't arrived, so that was £60 well spent. I decided to order some bits from Redwolf with the help of Fung at gunnerairsoft, i order the DeepFire 500mm to 750mm cylinder, G&P SR-25 piston and a Systema M110 spring, hopefully this'll help up the fps on ym beauty. She was firing at 260fps with an M100 but due to the oversized bore of the cylinder and standard TM piston head there was massive air leakage. With the pitiful fps and a Guarder hop unit i was still getting a greater range than that of a teammate with a stock AA L85 firing 350fps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Domz Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 (edited) is there something that goes in the handle ...clarify? There are... screws... to hold it on... ANYWAY Used mine at Ground Zero Weekender and it functioned really really well! Took other guns because I expected it to suck but I ended up using it for EVERY game! Had installed a new guarder hopup bucking, one was designed for a SP130, but it worked fine on my stock fps l85, just harder to set the hopup initially. My L85 now has the airsoftworld/scotland upgrades and it worked well so I'd recommend it- before that it broke the stock piston in a few games. Range was good. I was still using the original hopup unit (because the guarder needed the bar on the side which clips on to the body is too long and I didn't have a file or whatever) but it was OK. Accuracy: I may install a tightbore still, as shots tended to spread out. Bizzarely the hopup and functioning changed: it seemed to me that when recoil was enabled the single shot worked better. Often with it disabled if I pull the trigger lightly or sometimes even when doing a full trigger pull the gears will wind back but the shot Won't Fire, but then on the next trigger pull it fired twice. Strange... With the recoil enabled this didn't happen. :? So hooray, it worked well but for the occasional strange semi not firing for a shot then firing twice... If anyone has any idea what's going on there it could be helpful! BTW I also found my L85 is firing down at 260 (but with .23g BBs). Stock cylinder but AW piston, dunno if they put in a new piston head too. Lastly, the 5:2 configuration battery fits in my L85 as well or better than the 6:1 from AW. -Put in in this config with lines being batteries, barrel end being the far end: ||||| = Edited August 31, 2008 by Domz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferdiii Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Hi I only want to say that I have change the original nozzle of my sa80 by an ICS ´s nozzle from a MP5 and ,although the FPS go down, I have got improve the accuracy.This nozzle is shorter than the original. Regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwoodcock01 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Well mine in the last week died, which is a shame. It dropped of the power after making a funny sound, strangely after taking it apart, the piston is fine the gear are fine but it just makes a funny whrirring quite sound. After a quick total in replacement parts for the gear box, new motor and tightbore barrel and new hop rubber the whole lot comes at £100 just over. This leaves me with the thought about getting a new AEG or spending money and time sourcing the parts. Do I regret buying it? Hell no, it did its job damm well and I had one of the really early ones into the UK and it always gave me great fun to skirmish with it. So do I get another L85 or this time a M4? Hmmm? Cheers Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwatMP5man Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Today i FINALLY receievd my custom parts from powerupgrade, after 12 weeks of nothing, a paypal dispute which i won 4 weeks ago and got nothing out of. They arrived in a box dated the 23rd September 2008, but im happy they seem to be really good parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apex Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I've got the Nozzel, Cylinder and Cylinder Head. The nozzel does not fit on the new cylinder head but fits the stock cylinder head fine. It has stabilised the FPS readings i was getting but still i seem to have a massive air leak ( explain how in stock format these hit 350fps and after conversion they lucky to hit 320fps) Has for the cylinder, whats to say it's a cylinder :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I gamed with my gun this weekend & it performed flawlessly again.I sort of(cough) had to use cheapy BBs in it for a few mags,it didn't like them & i wont be using them again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guardsman Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 mine died on sunday, the piston finaly gave up. oh well, had it at least a year with no other problems so can't complain realy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apex Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) If it was in stock format you have been very lucky for it to last Anyway, I've now fitted the high speed guarder motor with a m100 and changed the piston, it's currently out putting 20rds @ 345fps give or take 2 fps with the hop off, the replacement nozzle seems to have stabilized the fps. Think the low fps results i was getting before was due to short stroking the piston by 2 teeth. I've changed the hop unit for a Element hop unit ( had to trim the side parts of the hops unit down ) and fitted a guarder clear hop rubber which seem to give far better results. Edited October 26, 2008 by Apex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 My gun was one of the first in the country,it measures 311fps & although the battery is getting a bit tired now{it's still on the original one} it's still shooting well & i don't have any problems what so ever.In fact i sort of have survivers guilt RT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwatMP5man Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 With the new custom parts i got from Powerupgrade, i have seen a massive increase in fps and a slight increase in rate of fire. Before installing the new parts i was getting 270fps with an m100 and around 11rps. Since installing them i'm now getting 380fps with the same spring and im getting around 14rps over an average 5 second burst. Due to me playing more CQB at the SWAT Urban site, ill be downgrading it to 330fps with will hopefully increase reliability a fair bit. Sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Cartman Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) Having chrono'ed my L85 at F&O last sunday (6th July) itwas firing at 240fps, pretty low considering thats it got an M100 fitted with an element piston and head. So i bought a new spring and relubed the piston head and chrono'd it this sunday only for it to be shooting 304fps, now having conferred with another owner of one of these, it seems that the cylinder is too wide for almost all standard piston heads. What im now looking to do is IIRC get a PSG1 cylinder as i was told its the same length but a standard bore, or buy the entire cylinder set from the czech website, even with language barrier(all emails are in czech). Sean I've replaced mine with a Systema aluminum bearing piston head and an unknown brand Chinese aluminum (full teeth) piston of the correct length and 1st tooth of the rack gear not removed. It is not as air tight as the original rubbish white vinyl piston head, but still giving a good air-seal. The Systma o-ring is expanding sufficiently by the vented air as the piston goes forward. As I understand, all PSG-1 pistons are of the half-gear variant. So, don't use it. I've also examined the G&P SR25 rack gear. The pitch (i.e. spacing) of the gears is not the same as that of the Army Armament. Therefore, I don't expect it to mesh well with the sector gear. Do not use a PSG-1 spring as PSG-1s are not designed for full-auto. Erik. Edited November 13, 2008 by Erik Cartman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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