adam888888 Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 whats the different between the ca and jing gong mags? is there any way of modding the JG mags to work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) Apart from the CA hi caps that i sold on to Freypal,i'm using MAG midcaps & Star real caps in my gun & they have worked flawlessly. I was worrying because there seems to be a lot of variation between peoples guns,mine hasn't given me any trouble but Freypals did.Freypals gun fires the CA hicaps & i've no reason to assume it wont fire the Star real caps or MAG midcaps.I've had no issues with the hop either,i don't expect it to shoot a nailhead but as long as it can hit a torso sized object at distance i'm happy. I can't wait for my next game where there's a British side,i anticipate it will almost exclusively be armed with SA80s & looking good.{saying that i'll still have my M15 as back up} Edited August 10, 2007 by rolling-thunder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otherrandomhero Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) Okay, since the last 20 pages of this thread dab in and out of the problems in this gun and it's hard and time consuming to go through all that and find what I'd need to do to make this workable, I could use a bit of help. So, can someone please (stealth, you seem to have a good handle on this) list all the problems this gun has had out of the box and solutions we KNOW will fix them? I'm really debating whether or not one of these is worth getting since they seem to have so many issues. Thanks y'all! Edited August 10, 2007 by otherrandomhero Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 whats the different between the ca and jing gong mags? is there any way of modding the JG mags to work? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Sorry mate, JG mags suck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Okay, since the last 20 pages of this thread dab in and out of the problems in this gun and it's hard and time consuming to go through all that and find what I'd need to do to make this workable, I could use a bit of help. So, can someone please (stealth, you seem to have a good handle on this) list all the problems this gun has had out of the box and solutions we KNOW will fix them? I'm really debating whether or not one of these is worth getting since they seem to have so many issues. Thanks y'all! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...e=post&id=25713 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 quick question, will the blowback cause other internal breakages or will it just break itself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warning Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...e=post&id=25713 <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  or here  File: G_G_L85_guide.pdf File Size: 1.1mb (approx) Link: Click Here!  you can download it from here, i uploaded to my box account so hopefully you can download it from here if needs be <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  if some ppl have web browser issues Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 With people still having issues with their guns i thought that i'd better get my gun out,charge the battery & go kill some cardboard boxes. All done with the Mag loaded up i emptied the Hicap that came with the gun,at range shooting in my Garden.Result one dead cardboard box{that will teach it to be square}& one rifle which once again performed flawlessly.I've given the gun a careful once over & it's showing no sign of strain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptWilkes777 Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Hi, Just got mine from Hong Kong, it works, however the magazine cannot be fixed in place without removing the rear THM locking pin. I've searched the forums but couldn't find any detailed solutions to rectify the problem. I'd appreciate a bit of help as this is my first AEG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PMan Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Hi, Â I'm interested if will be any problems if I put a stronger spring inside of Army R85? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adam888888 Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Skrim Report  Both R85 worked perfectly all day with the blow back ENABLED the whole time, we but approximately 3000 rounds through each gun.  They both cronod at at about 310-320 straight out of the box.  The first game was a 4 hour woodlands match in wich the r85 were out ranging alot of other guns. i didnt find the weight to be a problem at all, when you shoulder the gun it becomes weightless and very easy to aim.  Every one was drooling all over them, the blowback turned alot of heads, everyone was asking to hold it and saying "is that one of the china sa80's? i was thinking of getting one of them" they all complimented the build quality and feel of the gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Good to know that not everyone is having problems with their guns.It's nice to know i'm not alone in having a gun that does what it's supposed to.I can't wait to skirmish with my gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwoodcock01 Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 (edited) Just thought I would pop in and give a quick status report of my R85.  I had but one problem and that was with the charging handle breaking off. A quick vist to a friend with a welder shorted that one out.  Otherwise been going great, I have noticed a wee tendency to be a bit picky with what magazines I put in, mainly using the one that came with it and CA mags.  When I removed the hop/barral and then put it back in (to do a clean) this seemed to fix the problem.  Heck, even the battery is turning out ok. I have noticed as someone else has said that I do seem to out range a few folks, which was not my intention as the range work normally falls to my M14.  Overall, I am happy with the performace thus far. As with any new product there are niggles that get in the way but I feel this was worth the money.  I look forward to a A2 version just to finish the collection!  Cheers  Rich Edited August 12, 2007 by rwoodcock01 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freypal Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 (edited) Good to hear there are good reports coming in. The majority of bad reports on this thread are from people who don't even own the gun but are rubbishing it. Edited August 12, 2007 by Freypal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pstj Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Two days of skirmishing with the gun and it has worked great. Only consern is the hop-up wich is not functioning like I expectrd, but I'm going to try on a different one next weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I said the same about my G&G L85. It worked perfectly while others had problems with theirs. If you only ever shoot in semi then there's a good chance you'll never have a problem with the piston. The blowback could still fail though. Â If you shoot in auto then damage to the piston is inevitable at some stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Chef Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Well, just seen one at my site (I ordered it for the guy). Â GUTTED..... Â its almost as good as my G&G one in terms of build quality, performed faultlessly on full auto all day, unlike my G&G one on its first outing and was even possibly a little more accurate than my G&G one (then then he had installed a CA tight barrel and new hop rubber). Â In short, totally worth the money in my opinion. Still love my G&G though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adam888888 Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I have figured out why the jinggong mags don't fit int the R85. the Hop ups BB feed cannot push the plastic bit that stops the bb's coming out the mag out the way, this stops the mag reaching the mag catch and locking in. Â The plastic bit that stops the BBs coming out needs to be filled down a small amount on the top angled part that allows the hopup to slide it back. Â It only needs to be filled about half a millimeter further back so the hopup can slide it back when it comes into contact with the top of the plastic catch. Â This mod is very easy and tock me about 2 minutes to do to 2 magazines that both feed and lock in perfectly now. Sorry if i didn't explain it very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Good pictures,thanks for taking the time to pass on the info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 (edited) One question about the hop-up unit, I removed the inner barrel along with the hop-up bucking, a small rubber part fell out. It seem to be the part that pushes against the hop-up bucking. It's the small part on this picture: http://www.x-guns.com/Prd100/922-082-S.jpg  Was it somehow attached inside the hop-up unit? How to install the small part back? Edited August 13, 2007 by Killian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pstj Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 It's not attached. You can see the place for it inside the unit on the upper side. A small rectangular hole where it is supposed to be. Â A follow up question: Have you tried changing the hop-up unit? Tried to put on a G&P hop-up and it was tight like hell. Didn't manage to get it inside outer barrel as it was supposed to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 please can someone answer as to whether the blowback failing will damage the rest of the internals or just the blowback. Â if just the blowback fails then its no big deal for me, its a shame but nothing TOO bad. Â and i read in that PDF file that filing off 3 teeth from the stock sector gear changes the nozzle and tappet plate timing. because of this how much will using a standard piston+spacer and filing the gear reduce the chances of the gun failing. Â that bit about the tappet plate and nozzle just made me wonder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Removing the first three teeth from the sector gear does cause the nozzle to retreat earlied compared to the piston, but the release timing will be the same. Â -Sale Quote Link to post Share on other sites
8416w Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I am presently trying to find a US dealer that has a R85 in stock. I have visited the websites of all the usual suspects, but with no luck. If you know of any dealers that have them, let me know. Â Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rsov Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I am presently trying to find a US dealer that has a R85 in stock. I have visited the websites of all the usual suspects, but with no luck. If you know of any dealers that have them, let me know. Thank you <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  hey bro just wanna let you know we got enough experience shipping airsoft to States so just let us know if we can be of any assist keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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