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Just as an idea folks, I thought it'd be worth having a thread where you can quickly see what gasses are compatible with the pistol / revolver you're planning on purchasing / already own.

 

What I propose is that anyone wanting to contribute basically states the model, version (if appropriate) etc of their replica, and whether it's NBB/GBB (for purposes of classification). What I (or any other Mod) will do is then update this initial post with your contributions. Hopefully we'll end up with a comprehensive list of replicas and their compatible gasses.

 

Some quick notes:

 

- Please try and avoid duplicating other people's entries unless you know that they can handle an additional gas.

 

- Please only discuss STOCK versions of the replicas - unless the modified version you have is a variant that comes pre-built from several retailers (eg a KSC / KWA MAC11 with a metal bolt).

 

- For the purpose of the thread until scientific evidence proves otherwise, we'll refer to propane as green. This way we'll keep things concise and avoid having newbies ruining their guns and then complaining because 'Arnies said it was okay'. ;)

 

Pistol:

 

GBB:

 

HFC Desert Eagle - Green

HFC - M190/M199 - Green

KJW - Berreta 92 - Green

KJW - M23 (Glock 23) - Green

KJW- M9 - green

KJW- P226- green

KJW/STTi - M93R - Green

KJW - P.14 FMV - Green

KJW - Para-Ordnance - Green

KSC - Beretta M93r - H134A

KSC - CZ 75 GBB, plastic: H134A/green

KSC - CZ 75 GBB, metal: H134A/ Green.

KSC / KWA Glock 17 - H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 18C - H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 19 - H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 23F - H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 26 - H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 26C - H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 34 - H134A / Green

KSC - MK23- Green

KSC / KWA - M945/M945C - H134A / Green

KSC - USP Compact - Green

KSC - USP - H134a / Green

KSC USP Compact - Green

KWA - USP .45 - Green

KWA - USP Compact - Green

KWC - Co2 Sigma - CO2 only

Maruzen - P99 - Green

Marushin - M1910 - Green

Maruzen PPK (inc Movie Prop Edition) H134A

TM Desert Eagle - Green

TM - G17 - Green Gas/134a

TM - HiCapa 4.3 / 5.1 - H134A / Green

TM - M1911A1 - H134A / Green

TM - Mk23 SOCOM - 134a (can use green gas with dump valve mod to mag)

TM - SiG226 - Green

TM - Steyr M-GB - Green

TM P226 - Green

WA - Beretta 92 (any model) - 134a

WA - Beretta Cougar - 134a (green with flow restrictor)

WA - Single Stack 1911 - 134a/green

WA - Double Stack 1911 (SVI, Para) 134a/green

Wa Shan - PPK/S - Co2 (bulbs)

WE - 1911 - Green

WE - Hi-Capa (all except Dragon) - Green

WE - Hi-Capa 5.1 - Green

WE - Any Dragon Edition - Green

 

NBB:

 

HFC - Colt .25 - H134A / Green

KJW - MK1 - H134A/Green

KJW - M600 - H134A / Green

Marushin - Detonics combat master 8mm NBB - Green

Marushin - Derringer (6mm) - H134a/GREEN

Marushin - Mauser HSc - H134A / Green

Marushin Sturm Ruger Assassin Model H134A

TM - Steyr GB NBB - Green

Y+P - M9 - H134A / Green

 

Revolver:

 

HFC - Magnum Revolver - H134A / Green

Marushin - Taurus Raging Bull 8mm -Green

Tanaka M29 - H134A / GREEN

Tanaka M66 - H134A / GREEN

Tanaka - Performance Center .44 - H134a/GREEN

Tanaka - SAA- Green/Red

Tanaka - Smython - H134A / GREEN

Tanaka - Umbrella Revolver (6inch) - H134a/GREEN

 

SMG

 

HFC - Desert Eagle - H134a/GREEN

HFC M11 - (ABS) - H134a/GREEN

HFC - T77 - H134a/GREEN

KSC / KWA MAC11 (Plastic Bolt) - H134A

KSC / KWA MAC11 (Metal Bolt) - H134A / Green

KSC TMP and SPP V1 and Hard Kick versions: 134a

Maruzen - M11 - 134a

Maruzen - Micro-uzi - H134A

Maruzen MP5k - 134a ONLY

Maruzen - Skorpion - H134A / Green.

 

Shotgun

 

Maruzen - M870 shell ejector - Green

Maruzen - M1100 shell ejector - H134A

 

Bolt Action Rifle

 

Tanaka - M700 (Including AICS) - Green

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GBB

 

KSC / KWA - M945/M945C - H134A

KSC / KWA - Glock 18C H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 19 H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 23F H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 26 H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 26C H134A / Green

KSC / KWA - Glock 34 H134A / Green

 

TM - M1911A1 - H134A / Green

TM - HiCapa 4.3 / 5.1 - H134A / Green

 

HFC - Magnum Revolver - H134A / Green

 

KJW - M600 - H134A / Green

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GBB:

 

All WA's

 

Designed to run on 134a only. Using green will void any warranty and most likely result in your gun breaking sooner. Results may vary though......

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Pistol:

WE 1911 GREEN (134a is not recommended)

HFC M190/M199 GREEN (134a is not recommended)

KSC USP H134a/GREEN

Maruzen PPK (inc Movie Prop Edition) H134A

Marushin Sturm Ruger Assassin Model H134A

Marushin Derringer (6mm) H134a/GREEN/RED (lol, yes really does take Red gas :o)

 

oh yeah, I've been using Red Gas in my two tanakas without any issues whatsoever;

Tanaka Umbrella Revolver (6inch) H134a/GREEN/RED

Tanaka Performance Center .44 H134a/GREEN/RED

 

SMG:

HFC M11 (ABS) H134a/GREEN

HFC T77 H134a/GREEN

HFC Desert Eagle H134a/GREEN

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I like the idea.

 

NBB:

KJW MK1 - 134a/Green Gas

HFC Colt .25 - Green Gas/134a

 

GBB:

TM G17 - Green Gas/134a

KJW Berreta 92 - Green Gas

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KSC TMP and SPP V1 and Hard Kick versions: 134a only

 

Green will bend the rocket valve, blow the piston head and possibly (if you are unlucky) break the back of your upper receiver.

 

Marushin Detonics combat master 8mm NBB, green OK.

Marushin Taurus Raging Bull 8mm, Green OK.

(might unseat valve o-ring but it can be reset and no harm will have come to your pistol)

Maruzen M870 shell ejector, Green OK.

Maruzen M1100 shell ejector 134 only, green recoils too fast for shells to eject and eventually kills the piston head.

Marui Steyr GB NBB, Green OK.

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funny... i've been using my KSC TMP hard kick on green all the time i've had it. i reckon about 20 mags or so through it. never used it when its hot though.

 

KSC Glock 17 GBB, metal slide: Green gas

 

KSC CZ 75 GBB, plastic: 134a/green

KSC CZ 75 GBB, metal: Green.

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Done up to here. Many thanks to all those who have contributed so far.

 

As a quick request can you please ensure that your entries follow the same format as those already on the list, and that you include the category you want to the replicas to be added to? This just saves me a lot of time having to format and locate appropriate categories - sadly I don't know every single gas replica out there... :)

 

Also, I've noticed a lot of you made entries for SMGS and even Shotguns. As a result would you prefer this list to be moved to general Tech Discussion, or should I leave it here?

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Any Tanaka revolver will be fine with 134a or green. The only thing to watch out for is that green may take you over forum limits, and possibly site limits. This will depend on the specific model and, of course, the site's rules.

 

:zorro:

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GBB:

 

KJW M23: Green. Very, very sluggish on 134a, almost unusable.

KJW/STTi M93R: Green, 134a is sluggish but is still usable

 

 

NBB:

 

Y+P M9: 134a/green

Marushin mauser HSc: green/134a

 

 

SMG:

 

Maruzen micro-uzi: 134a, green rocks but may not last extended use

Maruzen Skorpion: 134a/green. Yes, I have yet to hear problems with one on green.

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WE - All 1911 - Green (H134A not recommended)

WE - All Hi-Capa (except Dragon) - Green (H134A not recommended), CO2 magazine available

WE - All Dragon - Green (H134A and CO2 not recommended)

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Done up to here. Thanks for all your input guys - hopefully this will save a lot of new 'wot am best gas' threads and help inform people buying a new / their first pistol. :)

 

A few quick notes:

 

- For the sake of conciseness, can you just list the recommended gases for your gun. I know that some gas guns will run on certain gas for a certain amount of time, but if you know they will break before long (such as a KSC/KWA M11 with a plastic bolt) can you just recommend the 'safe' gas to use?

 

- With the list starting to grow, we're starting to get people giving duplicate entries to those already mentioned. This isn't a major problem but if you could just quickly check to make sure your entries aren't added I'd appreciate it.

 

Thanks. :)

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breaking down the WA's

 

WA - Beretta 92 (any model) - 134a

 

WA - Beretta Cougar - 134a (green with flow restrictor)

 

WA - Single Stack 1911 - 134a/green (I have never had a slide or internal part break through use of green gas, and the gas system can more than accomodate the extra power)

 

WA - Double Stack 1911 (SVI, Para) 134a/green (same applies)

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My KSC M945 runs very well on green... hmm. a couple of years now?

TM SiG226

Marushin M1910

KSC USP Compact

TM Steyr M-GB

 

 

all on green, no issues.

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