Marlowe Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Just as an idea folks, I thought it'd be worth having a thread where you can quickly see what gasses are compatible with the pistol / revolver you're planning on purchasing / already own. What I propose is that anyone wanting to contribute basically states the model, version (if appropriate) etc of their replica, and whether it's NBB/GBB (for purposes of classification). What I (or any other Mod) will do is then update this initial post with your contributions. Hopefully we'll end up with a comprehensive list of replicas and their compatible gasses. Some quick notes: - Please try and avoid duplicating other people's entries unless you know that they can handle an additional gas. - Please only discuss STOCK versions of the replicas - unless the modified version you have is a variant that comes pre-built from several retailers (eg a KSC / KWA MAC11 with a metal bolt). - For the purpose of the thread until scientific evidence proves otherwise, we'll refer to propane as green. This way we'll keep things concise and avoid having newbies ruining their guns and then complaining because 'Arnies said it was okay'. Pistol: GBB: HFC Desert Eagle - Green HFC - M190/M199 - Green KJW - Berreta 92 - Green KJW - M23 (Glock 23) - Green KJW- M9 - green KJW- P226- green KJW/STTi - M93R - Green KJW - P.14 FMV - Green KJW - Para-Ordnance - Green KSC - Beretta M93r - H134A KSC - CZ 75 GBB, plastic: H134A/green KSC - CZ 75 GBB, metal: H134A/ Green. KSC / KWA Glock 17 - H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 18C - H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 19 - H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 23F - H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 26 - H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 26C - H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 34 - H134A / Green KSC - MK23- Green KSC / KWA - M945/M945C - H134A / Green KSC - USP Compact - Green KSC - USP - H134a / Green KSC USP Compact - Green KWA - USP .45 - Green KWA - USP Compact - Green KWC - Co2 Sigma - CO2 only Maruzen - P99 - Green Marushin - M1910 - Green Maruzen PPK (inc Movie Prop Edition) H134A TM Desert Eagle - Green TM - G17 - Green Gas/134a TM - HiCapa 4.3 / 5.1 - H134A / Green TM - M1911A1 - H134A / Green TM - Mk23 SOCOM - 134a (can use green gas with dump valve mod to mag) TM - SiG226 - Green TM - Steyr M-GB - Green TM P226 - Green WA - Beretta 92 (any model) - 134a WA - Beretta Cougar - 134a (green with flow restrictor) WA - Single Stack 1911 - 134a/green WA - Double Stack 1911 (SVI, Para) 134a/green Wa Shan - PPK/S - Co2 (bulbs) WE - 1911 - Green WE - Hi-Capa (all except Dragon) - Green WE - Hi-Capa 5.1 - Green WE - Any Dragon Edition - Green NBB: HFC - Colt .25 - H134A / Green KJW - MK1 - H134A/Green KJW - M600 - H134A / Green Marushin - Detonics combat master 8mm NBB - Green Marushin - Derringer (6mm) - H134a/GREEN Marushin - Mauser HSc - H134A / Green Marushin Sturm Ruger Assassin Model H134A TM - Steyr GB NBB - Green Y+P - M9 - H134A / Green Revolver: HFC - Magnum Revolver - H134A / Green Marushin - Taurus Raging Bull 8mm -Green Tanaka M29 - H134A / GREEN Tanaka M66 - H134A / GREEN Tanaka - Performance Center .44 - H134a/GREEN Tanaka - SAA- Green/Red Tanaka - Smython - H134A / GREEN Tanaka - Umbrella Revolver (6inch) - H134a/GREEN SMG HFC - Desert Eagle - H134a/GREEN HFC M11 - (ABS) - H134a/GREEN HFC - T77 - H134a/GREEN KSC / KWA MAC11 (Plastic Bolt) - H134A KSC / KWA MAC11 (Metal Bolt) - H134A / Green KSC TMP and SPP V1 and Hard Kick versions: 134a Maruzen - M11 - 134a Maruzen - Micro-uzi - H134A Maruzen MP5k - 134a ONLY Maruzen - Skorpion - H134A / Green. Shotgun Maruzen - M870 shell ejector - Green Maruzen - M1100 shell ejector - H134A Bolt Action Rifle Tanaka - M700 (Including AICS) - Green Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 GBB KSC / KWA - M945/M945C - H134A KSC / KWA - Glock 18C H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 19 H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 23F H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 26 H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 26C H134A / Green KSC / KWA - Glock 34 H134A / Green TM - M1911A1 - H134A / Green TM - HiCapa 4.3 / 5.1 - H134A / Green HFC - Magnum Revolver - H134A / Green KJW - M600 - H134A / Green Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 GBB: All WA's Designed to run on 134a only. Using green will void any warranty and most likely result in your gun breaking sooner. Results may vary though...... Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Pistol: WE 1911 GREEN (134a is not recommended) HFC M190/M199 GREEN (134a is not recommended) KSC USP H134a/GREEN Maruzen PPK (inc Movie Prop Edition) H134A Marushin Sturm Ruger Assassin Model H134A Marushin Derringer (6mm) H134a/GREEN/RED (lol, yes really does take Red gas ) oh yeah, I've been using Red Gas in my two tanakas without any issues whatsoever; Tanaka Umbrella Revolver (6inch) H134a/GREEN/RED Tanaka Performance Center .44 H134a/GREEN/RED SMG: HFC M11 (ABS) H134a/GREEN HFC T77 H134a/GREEN HFC Desert Eagle H134a/GREEN Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I like the idea. NBB: KJW MK1 - 134a/Green Gas HFC Colt .25 - Green Gas/134a GBB: TM G17 - Green Gas/134a KJW Berreta 92 - Green Gas Link to post Share on other sites
Doomsday Device Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 A request for the Tanaka SAA compatibility? It was a metal cylinder but I'd like a second opinion. Possible Sledge since he has a few Civies too Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 KSC TMP and SPP V1 and Hard Kick versions: 134a only Green will bend the rocket valve, blow the piston head and possibly (if you are unlucky) break the back of your upper receiver. Marushin Detonics combat master 8mm NBB, green OK. Marushin Taurus Raging Bull 8mm, Green OK. (might unseat valve o-ring but it can be reset and no harm will have come to your pistol) Maruzen M870 shell ejector, Green OK. Maruzen M1100 shell ejector 134 only, green recoils too fast for shells to eject and eventually kills the piston head. Marui Steyr GB NBB, Green OK. Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 funny... i've been using my KSC TMP hard kick on green all the time i've had it. i reckon about 20 mags or so through it. never used it when its hot though. KSC Glock 17 GBB, metal slide: Green gas KSC CZ 75 GBB, plastic: 134a/green KSC CZ 75 GBB, metal: Green. Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted May 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Done up to here. Many thanks to all those who have contributed so far. As a quick request can you please ensure that your entries follow the same format as those already on the list, and that you include the category you want to the replicas to be added to? This just saves me a lot of time having to format and locate appropriate categories - sadly I don't know every single gas replica out there... Also, I've noticed a lot of you made entries for SMGS and even Shotguns. As a result would you prefer this list to be moved to general Tech Discussion, or should I leave it here? Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Any Tanaka revolver will be fine with 134a or green. The only thing to watch out for is that green may take you over forum limits, and possibly site limits. This will depend on the specific model and, of course, the site's rules. Link to post Share on other sites
hkssr20det Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 GBB TM - Desert Eagle Hard Kick - Green/134A KWA - M1911A1 - Green/134A Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 opps my bad, the Marushin Sturm Ruger Assassin Model and Marushin Derringer are NBBs Link to post Share on other sites
otherrandomhero Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 GBB: KJW M23: Green. Very, very sluggish on 134a, almost unusable. KJW/STTi M93R: Green, 134a is sluggish but is still usable NBB: Y+P M9: 134a/green Marushin mauser HSc: green/134a SMG: Maruzen micro-uzi: 134a, green rocks but may not last extended use Maruzen Skorpion: 134a/green. Yes, I have yet to hear problems with one on green. Link to post Share on other sites
FW200 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 GBB: Wa Shan PPK/S: Co2 only (bulbs) Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 GBB: KJW M23: Green. Very, very sluggish on 134a, almost unusable. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is this gun you speak of? Link to post Share on other sites
otherrandomhero Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 KJW glock model 23, the metal slided one. Others may be different, but the one I used could barely push the slide back on 134a. Link to post Share on other sites
The Saint Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 WE - All 1911 - Green (H134A not recommended) WE - All Hi-Capa (except Dragon) - Green (H134A not recommended), CO2 magazine available WE - All Dragon - Green (H134A and CO2 not recommended) Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted June 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Done up to here. Thanks for all your input guys - hopefully this will save a lot of new 'wot am best gas' threads and help inform people buying a new / their first pistol. A few quick notes: - For the sake of conciseness, can you just list the recommended gases for your gun. I know that some gas guns will run on certain gas for a certain amount of time, but if you know they will break before long (such as a KSC/KWA M11 with a plastic bolt) can you just recommend the 'safe' gas to use? - With the list starting to grow, we're starting to get people giving duplicate entries to those already mentioned. This isn't a major problem but if you could just quickly check to make sure your entries aren't added I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 breaking down the WA's WA - Beretta 92 (any model) - 134a WA - Beretta Cougar - 134a (green with flow restrictor) WA - Single Stack 1911 - 134a/green (I have never had a slide or internal part break through use of green gas, and the gas system can more than accomodate the extra power) WA - Double Stack 1911 (SVI, Para) 134a/green (same applies) Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 TM P226 - Green TM Desert Eagle - Green HFC Desert Eagle - Green KSC USP Compact - Green KSC Beretta M93r - Abbey (stock slide) Maruzen MP5k - 134a ONLY Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 My KSC M945 runs very well on green... hmm. a couple of years now? TM SiG226 Marushin M1910 KSC USP Compact TM Steyr M-GB all on green, no issues. Link to post Share on other sites
suicidalsnowman Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 SMG Maruzen M11 134a Link to post Share on other sites
demon.b Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 NBB TM Mk23 SOCOM - 134a (can use green gas with dump valve mod to mag) Link to post Share on other sites
CountDoom Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 GBB KJW P.14 FMV - Green Link to post Share on other sites
r.ocelot Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 KSC MK23- Green Tanaka SAA- Green/Red Star PSS-300- Green/Red Tanaka M700- Green/C02 Link to post Share on other sites
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