Jow Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 (edited) Clicky This is a mirror, if you think I might of edited the orignal before, you can test ArniesAirsoft.co.uk on the original site at SilkTide This website appears to be in violation of the British Disability Discrimination Act I put the mirror up 'cause SilkTide is slow. Edited March 3, 2005 by Jowep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vindicare Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 However, look how well it did otherwise: A Google search for "ArniesAirsoft" finds this website as #1 This website is extremely well linked to (2,550 websites link here) This website is extremely popular (approx #70,802 in the world) Design makes proper use of modern technology (no table-based layout) Marketing= 9.3 Design= 7.5 Accessibillity= 5.8 (WTH? It's easy to access...) Experience= 8.6 Overall= 7.6 Brought down by a dodgy accessibillity test methinks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 As already stated in the IRC channel but repeated here, the website's seemingly run by people with a questionable interested in asserting that most sites are illegal, to say the least. The site's run by a consultancy firm who specialise in advising organisations on how their sites can better meet the needs of those with a disability, in the wake of the DDA (disability discrimination act for those who don't have to deal with it on a regular basis in their work). Now...let's see...Why could they possibly want to portray as many sites as possible as 'illegal' and scaremonger by putting forward stories of people suing sites for not being acessible enough? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnie Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Hahaha that's a good one.. because I own a website I have to put extra time into making it work for people who have difficulty reading the 'net otherwise I'm breaking the law That's like saying that because this site is mainly blue it discriminates against people that like red and those who are colourblind to all tones of blue. The best bit of their site is: How we can help Silktide are experts at developing websites and web applications. Contact us if you'd like to discuss how we can help redevelop your website professionally. Are Marlowe mentioned, the chappies that run that site would love it if you paid them lots of dosh to make you what they would consider a perfect (and legal) site. Just a tad biased methinks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Wtf disabilities are they talking about? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andthestoryends Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 I think maybe the overload of "what am best gunzor" threads may have given the thread permanent retardations of some sort. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 British Disability Discrimination Act? Anyone's typing in a wheelchair here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnie Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 To be fair there are people out there with disabilities that read websites (I know of at least two people in wheelchairs that use this site myself), but I think it's a bit much to brand any website 'illegal' because it doesn't bend over backwards for everyone on the planet. Bear in mind when that online evaluation thing says "disabilities" I take it to mean people with impared vision of some kind. It's very hard to make an alternative version of a site that's mainly text for someone that has difficulty reading, that's just the way things are sadly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Hehe, the whole thing don't make sense. If the website means people with impared vision, then, I bet 99% of the websites out there are illegal. Hey, we may just shut down the whole internet all together. If they mean people in wheelchairs, then Arnie just proved them wrong. Besides, the website is just making a guess since they said, "This website is probably unlawful in Britain from the 1st October 2004." And I'm sure that website itself is breaking some laws too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WMH Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 from SilkTide site: The Disabilities Discrimination Act makes most British websites unlawful from the 1st October 2004. The Act makes it "unlawful for a service provider to discriminate against a disabled person by refusing to provide any service which it provides to members of the public", specifically mentioning websites. Indeed, this is silly! This was covered well by Microsoft years ago in their developer stuff; at one time it appeared that if ones software was not accessible enough the maker could be liable. Accessiblity here means for folks that can't see, speech synthesis software reads them the website out loud, for folks who have a hard time with regular keyboards, they have special ones -- and so on. The thinking is along the lines of the laws regarding wheelchair ramps or parking spots, you have to provide for the disabled. In windows, you can see the accessibility options under Start menu / Program Files / accessories / Accessibility. On the web, I think the responsiblity should lie with the manufacturers of screen readers and keyboard products, and perhaps with browser makers (Microsoft already has you covered) -- but certainly there should be no special action required by one individual website like Arnies. -WMH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 When will people realize...disabled people CAN'T do everything normal people can, plain and simple! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 In windows, you can see the accessibility options under Start menu / Program Files / accessories / Accessibility. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yea, I can see this, but how is a blind person supposed to SEE that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lionel Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 When will people realize...disabled people CAN'T do everything normal people can, plain and simple! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As sad as it is, Antagon is totally right... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 I don't think he is. The term he was looking for was 'able bodied', not 'normal'. I fear few of us qualify as 'normal' Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jow Posted March 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 For anyone using FireFox, hold down CTRL and scroll the mouse wheel. :/ Just realised this, thought it might tie into this thread ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joeking27 Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Diagonal up and left Diagonal down and right Gestures too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andthestoryends Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 I don't think he is. there's always one. maybe he doesnt want antagon to be right for personal reasons. the sad fact of the matter is that the condition wouldnt be called "disabled" if it gave you the ability to do more, heh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 (edited) Um, if you quote the rest of Snowman's post, you'll realise he was making a joke about us all being abnormal, not disagreeing with Antagon. Is this what it means to have difficulty reading ? Edited March 4, 2005 by Sledge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Yes yes, many of us are "disabled" in the head, but in an obsessive-compulsive way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tankbuster Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 it's a bit much to brand any website 'illegal' because it doesn't bend over backwards for everyone on the planet.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> As far as I know, this legislation only applies to commercial websites. Arnies Airsoft probably doesn't fall into that category. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WarMonger Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 whats next, braille monitors?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
player Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 good idea... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jow Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 (edited) whats next, braille monitors?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you find a way too make it work, you could be a millionaire. EDIT: http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/publi...27.hcsp#P9_1032 Edited March 7, 2005 by Jowep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Be great fun on porn sites! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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