futbolpunk Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Hello everyone, I'm new to these forums and this is my first post. I am a moderator on 6mmStop (hobbyasia.com's forums), but this is my first time here. I saw this problem in a very old thread, but it was never fully answered. I have a TM AK Spetsnaz, and my fire selector is more offen than not unresponsive. The alignment seems to be ALL wrong, but I refuse to risk ruining my gun by tearing it apart and then not being able to put it back together ( ). Has anyone else had this problem and fixed it? If anymore information about the problem is needed, please let me know specifically what it is so I can help you help me. THANKS! Link to post Share on other sites
nmcabecadas Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Is the selector lever correctly aligned with the notchs and the selector plate correctly installed? For checking that you don't need to open the gearbox. Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 I'm not sure. It's not just that the notches don't line up though, because the spot that works on auto for a minute or two will be saftey later, and semi at another time! Usually it's pretty cosistant of saftey all the way up and semi all the way down. Everything in the middle is always changing. I'm sure you can see how frustrating this is. To be in the heat of a battle and not being able to shoot on auto is incredibly aggrivating. Also, I tried get to the fire selector plate, but I couldn't find where all the screws are that I need to remove. I know of the 4 on the bottom and the 4 that hold on the trigger guard (not sure if those need to come off or not), but taking those off didn't let me access anything. There are some on top somewhere, right? Link to post Share on other sites
Siciro Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 I would have an airsmith look at it. It sounds like you have either a bad selector plate or a misaligned selector plate. Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 There aren't any around where I live. The nearest place that services airsoft guns is Airsoft Atlanta - 2 1/2 hours away. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 If I had this problem before. My selector plate had slipped. All you need to do is take the gearbox out and undo the selector plate screw, re-align, then put back together. Link to post Share on other sites
nmcabecadas Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Seems that you have problems with the selector plate. Can be the contacts or the little spring attached to the plate. Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Does anyone know of any guides for solving this problem, or to strip it down to the fire selector? I just don't know how to get to the fire selector, since I have never taken my gun down to the gearbox before. Could someone take a picture showing where the upper screws that need to be removed are located, please? Thanks for everyone's help! Link to post Share on other sites
Prometheus Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 If it is such a pain to you, just endure the two hour drive and get AA to fix it for you. That seems to be the only qualm with you spetz, so just go to AA and they will fix it for you.(Probably). I wouldnt risk takedown like that if I were you. Have them fix it, if they will try, and that way you can try to work out some kind of warrenty with them to were if they break a vital piece...they have to pay for broken parts and such and get you your gun back bettter.... ~Prometheus Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 I would, except that it is almost definately going to be SEVERAL months before I could get to go there. Another good thing about doing it myself is that I'd learn a lot about my gun and how to service it incase anything happens in the future. Ever heard the story about if you give a man a fish vs. if you teach him to fish? Link to post Share on other sites
Siciro Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Arnie wrote a artical on how to upgrade an AK and included the disassembly for it HERE There are guides for ver. 3 gearboxes Ver.3 Gearbox Guide Hope this helps! If you would be so kind to give me plus rep points if this info helps? Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 I saw that before, but it didn't explain in detail how to disassemble it. The only pictures are of the screws that I allready know of. I appreciate the help, though. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 No.... http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/r.../ak47ftkfit.htm Part 2- Disassembling the Gearbox. Skip to that part.... it tell you there...... I didn't bother posting that as undoing the selector leavers/gears is such an easy task. Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Oh, I see what you're talking about now. I was reading in the wrong part before, sorry everyone. I tried taking out the necessary screws, but it still didn't come out. It talks about taking off the screw from the metal rod, which I didn't do. I'll have to try this later today. Thanks everyone. Link to post Share on other sites
Prometheus Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Yeah, just make sure you do your work on a white blanket or somthing similar so you wont loose anything....also try to work on a kitch table......or on your pool table ~Prometheus Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Don't worry, I'm not like Scott or whoever took apart the FA-MAS, lmao. Now stripping screws... that's another thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Prometheus Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Greg took apart the FA-MAS.......stupid, i know. just be carful with the screws... ~Prometheus Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Yeah, I definately will be... or at least try. Greg claimed that he didn't do it; so did Scott. I don't know who took it apart, but they're pretty stupid, lmao. Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 (note: old post - see edit for current info) Well, I currently have everything stripped down. The gun is in two (large) pieces, the gearbox assembly is showing, but I don't know what (if anything) to fix with the fire selector plate. How do I know what to change, if there is anything to change? The teeth seem to align right, but I don't really know how they should look, lol. EDIT - Well, now I have the gun back together, and to my amazement, the problem seems to be fixed!!! I actually didn't do anything other than messings around with the selector gears and understanding how it works (suprisingly complicated). While putting the gun back together, I found a problem. The 4 screws that hold on the trigger guard and magazine release lever don't won't to cooperate. When I line them up in the hole and try to screw them in, they just spin around doing nothing. There is nothing for them to screw into, and I can't figure out why. This is a huge problem since without those screws I can't use a magazine! Thank you everyone. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 There should be a flat metal plate inside the receiver that those screw screw into. Link to post Share on other sites
futbolpunk Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Yeah, I actually figure that out about 20 minutes ago, but don't have time to work on it yet. I have to completely strip my gun again to put that plate in the right place and to put a small weight/spacer that allows the front of the magazine something to grip to. The only thing different that brand new I noticed was that when I move from semi up to auto or saftey, the top arm of the fire selector (where it bends) hits the hop-up cover piece. I have to push the hop-up cover back so the fire selector arm can swing up. Link to post Share on other sites
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