chownsy Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 i asked in tech discussion bout possabilities of 10000rpm. i was told its impossible but if i had 3 barrels u could do 56rps to get 10000rpm total. 40rps is feasable whish would give 120rps total or 7200rpm. maybe push for 56rps if i can, this is my idea for feed tubes and hopper/magazine. whats the cost of 3x m249 328fps gearboxs, clone or good name make. whats the cost of 3x tightbore psg-1+ barrels, clone or good name make. whats the cost of 3x hop units, clone or good name make. what switch to use as a trigger mech, it will be help like a minigun. Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 What relevance do the M249 gearboxes have? You can't buy them as a complete item, you will have to research the contents of the gearbox yourself: http://www.dentrinityshop.com/index.jsp http://www.uncompany.com/ http://www.wgcshop.com/ As for the feed mechanism from the back pack, it will have to be precision engineered for the size of BBs, both the opening in the backpack and the screwthread size. I also highly doubt that a hopper feed mechanism is able to supply BBs as the rate you require. If this is not how you plan to make your design work, please say. The lack of a real technical diagram is a bit misleading. Link to post Share on other sites
WOOPWOOPTROOP Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Erm, if i taped 10 m16s together in a line i could get a lot of bbs down range per minute. The problem is its not practical. You really need to come up with a proper technical specification for what it is you are trying to do, together with a clear diagram. On the feed side, you'll have massive problems feeding bbs at that rate unless you can come up with a drive to power them into the chamber. Link to post Share on other sites
msx361 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Er, you want to fire 166 bb's a second to get 10,000rpm, so you think that by having 3 aeg firing at 56rps will give you 166rps right? Well it wont you will just have 3 aegs firing at 56rps, which is highly im probable in its own right, let alone the fact that it will probably eat itself with in the first 1,000rds. The highest rof i have ever heard about is 51rps the gun didnt feed very well and stripped like 5 pistons before the owner gave up. Generally i think 42-45rps is the highest rps an aeg can reliably feed and shoot at. If you want to go higher then that i would recommend using a gas system not electric. Link to post Share on other sites
lewis hiscock Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 the diagram doesnt really help convey your idea and this idea has been brushed on before with only limited sucess but i wish you luck all the same. Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 its only a thought, im after feedback to things, thats why i posted. i was looking at doing a AI AS50 sniper rifle instead but just wasnted feedback on this, and the relevance of a m249 g/box is that they produce high rof and if i never went stupid high rof i would use m249 g/box's. i know not techinical drawing but i not got and cad software yet. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I'd suggest some kind of TACTICAL PHASED KINETIC PROJECTILE LAUNCHER which you could simply shovel bags of BBs onto. Alternatively, you could save the time and effort by just giving me all your money right now. Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I'd suggest some kind of TACTICAL PHASED KINETIC PROJECTILE LAUNCHER which you could simply shovel bags of BBs onto. Alternatively, you could save the time and effort by just giving me all your money right now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ill give u my money lol how do u like 1p lol. thats basically all i have atm til i get a new job, thats why im planning this Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 its only a thought, im after feedback to things, thats why i posted. i was looking at doing a AI AS50 sniper rifle instead but just wasnted feedback on this, and the relevance of a m249 g/box is that they produce high rof and if i never went stupid high rof i would use m249 g/box's. i know not techinical drawing but i not got and cad software yet. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which make exactly? Some are exactly the same as normal AEGs. Basically a "M249 gearbox" doesn't exist. There are makes and types of gearboxes that go in M249 replicas, though. Even then they aren't necessarily designed for a prolonged and fast rate of fire. CAD software? You only need a piece of paper and a pencil for a technical drawing mate. It doesn't have to be exact, but if it was at least relative to the euclidean universe (instead of it looking like a 5 year old did it) we might be able to help you. Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Which make exactly? Some are exactly the same as normal AEGs. Basically a "M249 gearbox" doesn't exist. There are makes and types of gearboxes that go in M249 replicas, though. Even then they aren't necessarily designed for a prolonged and fast rate of fire. CAD software? You only need a piece of paper and a pencil for a technical drawing mate. It doesn't have to be exact, but if it was at least relative to the euclidean universe (instead of it looking like a 5 year old did it) we might be able to help you. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> lol i draw s*** ill give it a go, ill also include the sniper drawing and let you guys decide which i make. Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 As I said before your enthusiasm impresses me, but your creativity and the technical knowledge required to follow a project like this through are mildly lacking. You DO understand what I mean by the different gearboxes, right? Link to post Share on other sites
cheese_pie_man Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 It's a stupid idea. It wont work and even if it does it will be horribly unreliable and highly impractical. Just give up and keep your money. Link to post Share on other sites
msx361 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I is want amz gun to shootz @ 10000000rps!111!oneoneone Dis amz da planz. Iz dat wokrs?!111 Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I is want amz gun to shootz @ 10000000rps!111!oneoneone Dis amz da planz. Iz dat wokrs?!111 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> DO NOT SPAM, i actually know in my head how i want it to work. EDIT: im techinically minded but cant draw, i have designed loads things just keep them to myself usually. Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 As I said before your enthusiasm impresses me, but your creativity and the technical knowledge required to follow a project like this through are mildly lacking. You DO understand what I mean by the different gearboxes, right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thats the gerarbox i was meaning. i may stick to just 3 barrels at a normal rof. thats why i raised this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 The easiest way to do this is to go somewhat towards reality with one guy firing and one guy loading Just build yourself a frame that can hold 3 SAWs together. Upgrade the gearboxes to as fast as you can. Tie a string around all 3 triggers. PULL the string for support fire madness!!!! Remember to keep the bb loading doors open to that the loading guy can pour bag after bag of ammo into the motor/gravity fed magazines. All you have to do is to find a really well paying job first EDIT: Might work better if you upgrade the aegs to MOSFET and unify the electronic trigger Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 The easiest way to do this is to go somewhat towards reality with one guy firing and one guy loading Just build yourself a frame that can hold 3 SAWs together. Upgrade the gearboxes to as fast as you can. Tie a string around all 3 triggers. PULL the string for support fire madness!!!! Remember to keep the bb loading doors open to that the loading guy can poor bag after bag of ammo into the motor/gravity fed magazines. All you have to do is to find a really well paying job first <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ah well ill do the as50 sniper then. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Why? I just want to know why people want to put more BBs down range at a rate that would cost $20 for every minute of trigger time. Why is that more effective than semi? Link to post Share on other sites
msx361 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Talk about me spamming, you doing a double post when you can use the EDIT button and your quoting pictures That's a CA m249 gear box you have linked to there and i have never seen one of them for sale seperate from the gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I did find one device capable of discharging 10,000 BBs/min HERE although the supplied reloading tool is a bit poor. Link to post Share on other sites
msx361 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I had one of them once. But with such a high ROF, it didnt last very long Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Wonderful. Could we return to sensible technical discussion now please and stop acting like children? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
msx361 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ohh someones got his knickers in a twist today. Honestly though, ditch the project, it wont work mate. Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Wonderful. Could we return to sensible technical discussion now please and stop acting like children? Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it was, i wanted to know feasability of doing it and i know that 10000rpm is a bit to much to ask so thats why ill design it only and do my sniper. anyone got a psg1 gearbox lying about unused? Link to post Share on other sites
cheese_pie_man Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 lol i dont even think they sell spare ones of those. Also. do you have access to a machine shop? if you dont, you'll have to have candyman level talent. Link to post Share on other sites
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