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[Leadmill]

I propose a 'what am bestest aircraft thread' in the off topic section as there is clearly a demand, plus no one gives a fook about this silly facebook thing!

[Sledge]

No point. The answer is clearly "Airwolf."

 

[Jagdraben]

Wrong.

 

Havoc.

[Sledge]

*googles*

Maximum speed of 187mph? Pah! Airwolf can exceed Mach 1, and go from sea level to 65,000 feet in 9.6 seconds.

 

[Jagdraben]

You're right. The Venom is far superior.

[Sledge]

VENOM wasn't a thing, it was a group. The Vicious Evil Network Of Mayhem. Although, Mayhem's Switchblade might give Airwolf a run for it's money.

 

[RedRaptor]

You guys are all pathetic. GDI Orcas own everything and you KNOW it.

[Sledge]

We're not including made up stuff from videogames.

 

[sniper_boi]

You guys are all pathetic. GDI Orcas own everything and you KNOW it.

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NOD Venoms with laser upgrade pwn Orca's with ease.

[fanta101]

Bold 1: There not the most deadly airborne platforms devised, about the only successful long range bomber to ever come out of America was the B52, and yet, for some reason during 2003, you landed an entire wing of B52's in Oxford, so much for long range.

 

If however, you want sheer brilliance and devastation, try a Vulcan bomber. fast, delta shaped, and the best thing was, when it went low level (hence the green camo on the body), it was hard to shoot down, unlike the B52's.

 

Bold 2: The IAF, has always maintained a high alert of readiness, i don't think however, a slight gap in the defences will wipe Isreal out in a heartbeat, it just means there will be fighting, and with the IAF overhead, it'll be sorted quickly.

 

Bold 3: Soviets were always an Army of brute force, during the cold war, they severly out numbered us (NATO) with tanks, aircraft, AA defences. Of course, with all that behind them, they could afford to go brute force.

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You forget about the B2 Bomber. It is the deadliest bomber in the world and the bomber of choice to deliver nuclear payloads (other than cruise missiles). You cannot shoot a B2 down because you will not see it coming they are stealth and slip right under/through radar. The only thing B52's are used for nowadays is as a Gun-ship platform. They fill it up with flak-cannons and shoot down at their target area.

 

Although long range bombers are not really necessary since the U.S. can launch air/missile strikes from its Aircraft carriers/navy.

 

In terms of deadliness. The YF-22 Raptor is the deadliest fighter in the USAF. That is because of its stealth (good luck getting a lock), maneuverability ( It can fly straight up without going into a stall, the engines move up/down with the elevators) and the fact it is super fast (has a cruise speed of over mach 1, without an after burner).

 

The greatest defense nowadays is not how many guns you have but how invisible you are. More and more U.S. military aircraft are becoming stealth and virtually invisible to radar, you can't get a lock on something you can't track, and if you do there is always the missile jamming and good ol' chaff/flare

 

I beleive the Soviet Union was virtually bankrupt with trying to keep up with U.S. military advancement. The only thing i can recall they could "afford" is man power.

[Leadmill]

Isn't the B2 the aircraft which has the anti radar paint that comes off in the rain?

[fanta101]

Isn't the B2 the aircraft which has the anti radar paint that comes off in the rain?

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Thats the F-117 fighter bomber. There isn't anything to worry about though, since they cruise above the rain like most other bombers.

[Night_raven]

See below.

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Right, i'm now going to pick what you said, to pieces:

 

You forget about the B2 Bomber. It is the deadliest bomber in the world and the bomber of choice to deliver nuclear payloads (other than cruise missiles). You cannot shoot a B2 down because you will not see it coming they are stealth and slip right under/through radar. The only thing B52's are used for nowadays is as a Gun-ship platform. They fill it up with flak-cannons and shoot down at their target area.

 

The B2 isn't the most deadly, it doesn't even carry the same payload as a B52, course, you develop a stealth bomber, which despite having nuclear capabilitys, cannot even do what the B52 does, which is load a few Nuclear cruise missile's in the bay, and then sling some in pods of 3 under the wing.

 

Although long range bombers are not really necessary since the U.S. can launch air/missile strikes from its Aircraft carriers/navy.

 

Doesn't that then render the B2 and B52 pointless in an american air force?

 

In terms of deadliness. The YF-22 Raptor is the deadliest fighter in the USAF. That is because of its stealth (good luck getting a lock), maneuverability ( It can fly straight up without going into a stall, the engines move up/down with the elevators) and the fact it is super fast (has a cruise speed of over mach 1, without an after burner).

 

Ok,.. in your pig ignorance, you've forgotten a couple things, SU-35, EF2000, both have super cruise, both can fly at Mach 1 without the aid of afterburners, both can take off vertically in a nose up attitude without stalling. EF2000 and the SU-35 have something quite ingenious called forward canards, it basically flips the plane about the sky, and the best bit is, it doesn't even need thrust vectoring to do it.

 

The greatest defense nowadays is not how many guns you have but how invisible you are. More and more U.S. military aircraft are becoming stealth and virtually invisible to radar, you can't get a lock on something you can't track, and if you do there is always the missile jamming and good ol' chaff/flare 

 

Being "invisible" to radar is only going to last for so long, eventually countries will develop radar so sensitive it'll pick up stealth aircraft.

 

Of course, not every single missile is heat guided, let me break it down for you, the different catagories of missile:

 

Radar Guiding:- requires the use of the fighter to lock onto the aircraft, after the missile has been fired, it requires that the pilot keep the plane on lock until impact, this is because the missile follows the radar from the mother aircraft, and follows it until it hits the target aircraft.

 

FAF or Fire And Forget: This kind of missile, is as it name says, a bog standard fire and forget, the pilot just locks the missile onto the target, and once fired, the missile keeps lock onto the aircraft, and lets the pilot go for other targets.

 

Heat guided: Missile simply locks onto the enemy heat signiture, usually in this case, it's the engine exhaust, they can be direct impact missile's or proximity missile's, exploding near the target.

 

I could go on, but then it goes into AA Missile's, ICBM's, SLBM's etc.

 

I beleive the Soviet Union was virtually bankrupt with trying to keep up with U.S. military advancement. The only thing i can recall they could "afford" is man power.

 

Totally, bankrupt.

 

The fall of the Soviet Union was due to political turmoil in the Kremlin.

 

The Soviets developed the SU-35, Su-37, Mig-21, Mig-29.

 

They designed some really radical designs, which they still use now, only downside is that there having a fuel crisis, which means pilots of Russia, only get at best, 11 - 12 hours of flying a year.

[fanta101]

Right, i'm now going to pick what you said, to pieces:

The B2 isn't the most deadly, it doesn't even carry the same payload as a B52, course, you develop a stealth bomber, which despite having nuclear capabilitys, cannot even do what the B52 does, which is load a few Nuclear cruise missile's in the bay, and then sling some in pods of 3 under the wing.

Doesn't that then render the B2 and B52 pointless in an american air force?

Ok,.. in your pig ignorance, you've forgotten a couple things, SU-35, EF2000, both have super cruise, both can fly at Mach 1 without the aid of afterburners, both can take off vertically in a nose up attitude without stalling. EF2000 and the SU-35 have something quite ingenious called forward canards, it basically flips the plane about the sky, and the best bit is, it doesn't even need thrust vectoring to do it.

Being "invisible" to radar is only going to last for so long, eventually countries will develop radar so sensitive it'll pick up stealth aircraft.

 

Of course, not every single missile is heat guided, let me break it down for you, the different catagories of missile:

Radar Guiding:- requires the use of the fighter to lock onto the aircraft, after the missile has been fired, it requires that the pilot keep the plane on lock until impact, this is because the missile follows the radar from the mother aircraft, and follows it until it hits the target aircraft. 1

FAF or Fire And Forget: This kind of missile, is as it name says, a bog standard fire and forget, the pilot just locks the missile onto the target, and once fired, the missile keeps lock onto the aircraft, and lets the pilot go for other targets. 2

 

Heat guided: Missile simply locks onto the enemy heat signiture, usually in this case, it's the engine exhaust, they can be direct impact missile's or proximity missile's, exploding near the target. 3

 

I could go on, but then it goes into AA Missile's, ICBM's, SLBM's etc.

Totally, bankrupt.   

 

The fall of the Soviet Union was due to political turmoil in the Kremlin.

 

The Soviets developed the SU-35, Su-37, Mig-21, Mig-29.

 

They designed some really radical designs, which they still use now, only downside is that there having a fuel crisis, which means pilots of Russia, only get at best, 11 - 12 hours of flying a year.

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The F22 is not invincible but it is a damn struggle to shoot down. With a good pilot I am sure it could take on odds other aircraft couldn't even consider. And the F22's cockpit/flight controls are relatively simple. Along with its advanced diagnostics it can basically repair itself in flight without the pilot losing much focus on flying/evading it's situation.

 

As for your creative AA missile definitions:

 

1.) Radar jamming as I mentioned above. That is if you even get a lock on an f22

 

2.) Fire and forget is just a missile that guides it self via Radar, heat, etc.. doesn't guide itself/lock on by "magic".

 

3.) chaff/flare simple enough.

 

Just because you went to Wikipedia and looked up big words doesn't mean you are correct/ know what you are talking about.

 

I never stated these features were F22 exclusive since there are other aircraft that have one or two of these, but, the F22 has them all and is very effective. With afterburners good luck catching one.

 

Lockheed Skunk Works has produced some very advanced/ effective aircraft including the fastest plane in the world (SR-71 Blackbird spy plane) although I do not know if it still has that title.

 

The future of aerial bombardment is U.A.V.s Which the U.S. has prototypes for. They are ideal since they do not risk American pilots on dangerous missions and can be considered expendable.

 

As for the B52. It can carry a bigger payload that is true but it is Big and fairly vulnerable (although they would have fighter escorts on bombing runs). They were used to bomb the hell out of the Afghan mountains. A B2 is virtually invisible and can carry whatever the mission calls for.

We can also launch long-range cruise missiles/precision nukes from: Ships, Submarines, Silos, and our Bombers.

 

In general, we have variety.

 

Just because the president is a total moron and has hurt the U.S. name doesn't mean everyone else is.

 

I don't want to get into a flame war but think before you start calling people names. I love discussing/comparing aircraft/fighter technology, just keep it civil.

 

*Edit* http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...?showuser=26742 Check out his icon

 

Made a thread if anyones seriously interested.

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...T&f=22&t=118608

[sniper_boi]

I take it you never heard of the Russian Berkut or SU-47?

 

In terms of avionics its the most advanced due to its FSW, technoligcaly it is not.

 

Not sure what one looks like here's a pic.

 

 

 

This Aircraft here has been nicknamed the "raptor killer"

 

 

The Mig 1.42, it is quite a nimble fighter, however, it has seen limited useage within the Russian Airforce.

 

(And for those who've played C&C Generals, this is the aircraft that the Chinese have. )

[Night_raven]

The F22 is not invincible but it is a damn struggle to shoot down. With a good pilot I am sure it could take on odds other aircraft couldn't even consider. And the F22's cockpit/flight controls are relatively simple. Along with its advanced diagnostics it can  basically repair itself in flight without the pilot losing much focus on flying/evading it's situation.

 

As for your creative AA missile definitions:

 

1.) Radar jamming as I mentioned above. That is if you even get a lock on an f22

 

2.) Fire and forget is just a missile that guides it self via Radar, heat, etc.. doesn't  guide itself/lock on by "magic".

 

3.) chaff/flare simple enough.

 

Just because you went to Wikipedia and looked up big words doesn't mean you are correct/ know what you are talking about.

 

I never stated these features were F22 exclusive since there are other aircraft that have one or two of these, but, the F22 has them all and is very effective. With afterburners good luck catching one.

 

Lockheed Skunk Works has produced some very advanced/ effective aircraft including the fastest plane in the world (SR-71 Blackbird spy plane) although I do not know if it still has that title.

 

The future of aerial bombardment is U.A.V.s Which the U.S. has prototypes for. They are ideal since they do not risk American pilots on dangerous missions and can be considered expendable.

 

As for the B52. It can carry a bigger payload that is true but it is Big and fairly vulnerable (although they would have fighter escorts on bombing runs). They were used to bomb the hell out of the Afghan mountains. A B2 is virtually invisible and can carry whatever the mission calls for.

We can also launch long-range cruise missiles/precision nukes from: Ships, Submarines, Silos, and our Bombers.

 

In general, we have variety.

 

Just because the president is a total moron and has hurt the U.S. name doesn't mean  everyone else is.

 

I don't want to get into a flame war but think before you start calling people names. I love discussing/comparing aircraft/fighter technology, just keep it civil.

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I'm keeping it Civil:

 

Lockheed Skunk Works has produced some very advanced/ effective aircraft including the fastest plane in the world (SR-71 Blackbird spy plane) although I do not know if it still has that title

 

Still holds that, Mach 3.

 

There's one based in England (RAF Mildenhall).

 

U.A.V's, i still can't see them taking over the roll of precision bombing completely, some human interaction will still be required.

 

And, i didn't look on Wikipedia, it just so happens i tend to read about Military aircraft, weapons systems etc.

 

Chaffs/Flares i think are slowly beginning to lose there usefullness, as we're starting to edge towards the age of precision weaponry.

[fanta101]

I'm keeping it Civil:

Still holds that, Mach 3.

 

There's one based in England (RAF Mildenhall).

 

U.A.V's, i still can't see them taking over the roll of precision bombing completely, some human interaction will still be required.

 

And, i didn't look on Wikipedia, it just so happens i tend to read about Military aircraft, weapons systems etc.

 

Chaffs/Flares i think are slowly beginning to lose there usefullness, as we're starting to edge towards the age of precision weaponry.

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The U.A.V.s being used in Iraq are flown remotely by pilots in Nevada.

 

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...T&f=22&t=118608

 

use this thread.

[sekiryu]

The only thing B52's are used for nowadays is as a Gun-ship platform. They fill it up with flak-cannons and shoot down at their target area.

 

You mean the AC130 Spectre Gunship.

 

Thats the F-117 fighter bomber.

 

The F117 is not a fighter.

[Kampfer777]

Su-47 is experimental, there is only 1, MAYBE 2 or 3. It is definitly not ready for mass production (unless the russians are thinking about getting eastern europe agian). But the concepts being developed will eventually give the raptor a run for it's money.

 

 

But by then we'll have some thing better/ new raptor modifications to compete.

[Leadmill]

Gents aircraft talk has got its own thread now, making posting in this one a moot point