my_plague_666 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 well, how effective is flora in british summer woodland? i'd also be interested to know how well KLMK and CADPAT work. if you could tell me compared to flecktarn that would help cheers Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 depends on which one you get, the green one, the tan one, the darker green one etc etc it probably works better than flectarn, but the russians even do a copy of that which imo looks better. Link to post Share on other sites
Little para Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Well i would say that cadpat wins in the summer time, I have a flora uniform and assault vest any they work pretty well but fade too much. Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 depends on which one you get, the green one, the tan one, the darker green one etc etc <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Flora is Flora, there's one version, no tan or darker green ones. It's not to bad but probably works better in autumn. It also gets quite hot after running around for a bit. http://shed-o-love.com/opma2/100_1944_resize.JPG http://shed-o-love.com/opma2/100_2032_resize.JPG Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Flora is Flora, there's one version, no tan or darker green ones. 2/100_2032_resize.JPG[/url] <{POST_SNAPBACK}> which explains why there are 5 listed variants of flora on kamoflage.net http://www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/00156...ndex.php?Page=1 More widely known as «Flora», the 3-TsV camouflage pattern is seen in a range of colour combinations. It is frequently suggested that these variations represent nothing more than carelessness and a general lack of standardisation in Russian industry; however, the evidence of the article numbers suggests otherwise. Unlike Western camouflage patterns, Soviet designs were never given an 'official' name. Instead, they were assigned an артикул ('article'; transliterated artikul) — a unique number, which was used to identify a particular product. In other words, every new product was assigned its own unique article. Not surprisingly, this system has been continued by the Russian Federation. Significantly, the different versions of «Flora» have different articles. In other words, each is a new product, distinct from any of the others that resemble it. At this time, I have been unable to establish the article for the variation of «Flora» shown here. It is, however, distinguished from other versions of «Flora» by its green background colour. Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 I understood that as being manufacturing differences and due to fading, but you could be right. Still, none are really tan are they. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 hmm, might have to try some flora. i would have thought it would be more suited to summer as it's a denser, greener, leafier camo, and flecktarn for autumn/winter as its a fairly muddy looking camo. and yeah, i knew about the russian 'flecktar' version of the bundeswehr flecktarn, but what with the easy availibility of the german stuff it's not worth hunting down the russian when i could just remove the german flags IMO. anyone got some pics of KLMK in use? up close it looks poor, but i saw a pic from a fair way away and it looked completely different. Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 I understood that as being manufacturing differences and due to fading, but you could be right. Still, none are really tan are they. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thats taken from trident military, thats naval infantry using a similar pattern of flora, theres so much variation in the Russian military and their equipment, its most likely just made in a different factory to the other types. Flactar-d is also a good pattern, its available from red soldier, its sort of similar to M84 http://www.redsoldier.com/12016-BEKAS-FLEC...c=2&category=34 Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Partizan is also an excellent alternative (I'm sure Hoppum and everyone else in Britain with a SPOSN GORKA-E will be able to vouch for this, as this is ownership of this oversuit that I I base my recommendation on). Due to the natural number of browns in its pattern, Kamysh also works rather well if you can find a hard wearing variant of it (I found my ANA NOCH-91 bdus to fail in that regard). Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 no matter how cool they look ive always been doubtful as to the effectivity of tiger patterns. and the partizan looks good, but even that looks more suited to autumn. right, what would you guys say is the best all rounder for british summertime? doesnt HAVE to be a russian camo, but would be cool if it was due to my love of AKs Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Flectar-d would be a good bet, so would either les or smog, but smog is way to close to DPM, so most people will think you are just using an AK with brit DPM. Rastr or Reed camo would look good though and would be effective with the greens and brown etc. have a look on www.soviet-propaganda.com the sites got a bit of stuff on it but the guy who runs it does a lot of business via the red alliance forums. M84 is a really nice camo pattern. but wouldnt go with an AK. how about US woodland, add a choc chip helmet cover and a vest for AK mags, and youve sort of got a iraqi army loadout, Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 im not really going for 'milsim', and i hate US woodland. if it's a russian battern thats a bonus, but my main chriteria is effecivity. Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 http://shed-o-love.com/opma2/100_2032_resize.JPG <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hahaha that's a picture of my bum As you can see, I agree with Flora for woodland. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 am i right in thinking that partizan BDUs are reversible for a greener summer version and a darker version? if so any cahnce someone could point me in the direction of some decent partizan BDUs. ive had no trouble finding flora, but partizan is a different story. Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 http://www.soviet-propaganda.com/bdu/camo/gorka-e/ Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 http://www.soviet-propaganda.com/bdu/camo/gorka-e/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Too bad he hasn't got the fully reversible two piece overalls - with the full camo pattern on each side. Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Yes he does. Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 but the Gorka E looks better, especially with smersh webbing. a bit of a random question, but my 6sh92 arrived today, and the mag pouhes are bigger than my 74 mags, is this the mags not being to scale, or have i got a RPK gunners vest. also how do you set up the pouches and pack properly? Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Mags should sit at this height: Airsoft ones will obviously sit a little lower. The top of the daypack is attached over the shoulders like so: And the bottom ones are attached to the two centre rear straps, take out the webbing belt, put the straps through the metal loops and put the belt back on: The vog/mag pouches are just put on the webbing belt where you want them. Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 thanks, it just seems the top flap of the pouches are big, and have a lot of space, but thats roughly where my mags sit. Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 The space on the flaps is for the 45rnd mags. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 hmm, whats the the OD sections on the gorka-e? isnt there a full camo partizan BDU available? ooh, and i spotted the gorka flora, it looks a lot greener, how does it compare to standard, anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
Hoppum Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 From Left to Right: Partizan 2 piece Gorka-E w/partizan Gorka-S Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 cool where did you find that 2 piece? and how hot is it? can anyone comment on the gorka flora? Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 partizan sniper suit Linkage:http://www.soviet-propaganda.com/bdu/sniper/partizan/ Link to post Share on other sites
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